@icedquinn Dude was obviously a murderer and was caught red handed. So any other outcome wouldnt be justice when its such a clear cut case IMO.. but that said what irregularities are you concerned with?

@freemo @icedquinn Presumably jury intimidation by threat of mob violence

@valleyforge

Any jury that didnt convict the dude would be a moron, the case was cut and dry and no doubt the man was guilty. Mob violence is hardly needed and since no jurors were publicly identified it wouldnt sway them anyway.

@icedquinn

@freemo @icedquinn They will be identified and they could be worried about mob violence in general even if it's not directed at them

@valleyforge
I cant imagine any juror in their right mind coming to any other conclusion, mob or no mob. The case was clear cut and obvious of his guilt and intention
@icedquinn

@deesapoetra @freemo
The judiciary process in general is very long. hence why some people actually want "Judge Dredd" to be a real thing.

@lucifargundam @freemo
> The judiciary...
...is very long.

I guess it's just american related thing i don't undertand.

@deesapoetra @freemo
Tbh I don't know why it takes so long myself.

it takes several days/weeks for the simplest of tasks. There's been plenty of explanations but none of which really added up to me.

@deesapoetra Well the jury themselves didnt take long to decide at all. It was just the trial and the mountain of evidence that was the issue.

@freemo
Ah i see.
I see a lot of riot related post on twitter.
I'm afraid it's a bit too late for the verdict.

@Feddylain Considering how overwhelmingly obvious it is that he was guilty, and caught red handed, then no, I would not say justice was carried out in that case. I would say, however, that the system obeyed its own rules for how a trial is to be carried out (that system doesnt always result in justice, though its the best we got).

@freemo obvious? I don't know about that. I watched all the expert testimony and I have some reasonable doubts about prosecution witnesses. I doubt whether a significant amount of chauvins weight was on Floyd's neck. Whether Floyd's position and force applied would result in deaths in people who aren't suffering from the numerous medical and pharmelogical conditions specific to Floyd (and by extension, whether police are expected to take highly unlikely medical complications into account). I doubt whether there was malicious intent behind Chauvins actions.

Any of those things could result in a not guilty verdict.

@ChristiJunior @freemo Mob justice never ends well, even when the guy had it coming.

@ChristiJunior LAWL, ok buddy.. i mean the dude was literally caught red handed murdering someone.. The guy was dead (or at least unconscious) and the man continued to strangle him for another 4 minutes and physically stopped other cops from checking on his safety... There is no sane reason anyone could side witht he cop on this.

@freemo The massive, hulking career criminal had repeatedly cried wolf and was resisting arrest. You don't take chances with creatures like that, and you can't just assume the idiot is drugged out of his mind and a physical wreck due to his own stupid choices. Involuntary Manslaughter at absolute worst, under mitigating circumstances.

@ChristiJunior @freemo here's a good vid on why you do not relax around drugged individual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d2-iK5Dcy0

@coolboymew @freemo Yeah, but how many Marvel movies have there been depicting such situations?

@coolboymew
Who said anything about relaxing. Once he was immobile you cuff his feet and hands, no relaxing needed. There is no excuse for strangling a man for 4 minutes after he is unconscious.
@ChristiJunior

@freemo @ChristiJunior If I am not mistaken, retards were congregating around the police, putting them in a really bad spot

@coolboymew
They were, but they were also completely docile until he literally died then one dude started creeping up but immediately backed down. Either way its not a free ticket to kill someone or denying other cops the right ti check on his safety. Once he was unconscious him continuing to strangle him was obvious intent to murder.
@ChristiJunior

@freemo @ChristiJunior

>They were, but they were also completely docile

Irrelevant. The fact remains that it adds to the difficulty that you got someone that is completely out of his mind, the dude was completely far gone and could not even understand a single fucking word they told him and could not even comply with orders

Drugged individuals can go from 0 to 100 real fucking quick and having idiots congregating around increased the pressure ten fold

@coolboymew
None of that excuses shit.. a few people standing around docile doesnt make your murder excusable. Again once the man was unconscious he just sat there strangling doing nothing else. Thats not handling the situation. He. Ould have told the other officers to handcuff his feet once he went unconcious and get off him after he was cuffed. Dude woukd have still been dead but then i could atleast see some possibility of it not being second degree murder. But no he just sat there strangling a lifeless body and doing little else, no excuse.
@ChristiJunior

@coolboymew @ChristiJunior
Fyi even after the cop literally said he had no pulse he continued to strangle him... So the whole "drug addicts are unpredictable" is all well and good but once he is dead they become pretty damn predictable and does t excuse the continued strangulation rather than resuscitation.

@freemo @coolboymew @ChristiJunior If he was strangled, how come he didn't die until after he was on the way to the hospital?

@realcaseyrollins
Mot true, the EMTs said they did not detect a pulse in Floyd when they arrived on the scene. He was dead before entering the ambulance.

Provide your source please.
@ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@freemo @ChristiJunior @coolboymew Interesting. I'll need to check that testimony, the only testimony I was aware of said that he passed away in transit.

@freemo @ChristiJunior What murder?

- The autopsy clearly says it's drug induced asphyxiation (Have you even read it?)
- Cocktail of drugs found in his system, enough to kill even
- Video clearly shows that the dude was completely far gone, too high to understand anything and couldn't even comply with orders
- Complained several times to have a hard time breathing already
- The cops were patient as fuck from this point, seriously
- However, was hardly credible due to throwing a massive toddler like tantrum in the cop car and then later asking to be put on the floor
- Does not show lesions or anything special in the neck area
- Other footage shows that Chauvin moved his knee hold several times, indicating some level of care and thought was put into it
- His training indicated to use it in those situations and Floyd asked to be put down on the ground
- A "force" specialist was called in court by the prosecution and told that Chauvin was well within his rights to use MORE force. Chauvin chose otherwise
- All that while they waited for the ambulance as I've been told


This is bullshit dude and the jurors were completely taken by the propaganda and violence threats

@coolboymew
Ive posted the autopsy several times on my feed, yes obviously i read it.

Dude was unconscious for 4 minutes and he sat on his neck. Police officer identifies him as having no pulse and chaivchauvinin still sat on his neck 3 more minutes.

None of the other points you make are the least bit relevant beyond that. When you sit on someones neck with no pulse, your intention is clear to murder him, period.

@ChristiJunior

They literally called the ambulance before they even put him on the ground. Murder is the intentional killing of someone. IDK about you, and maybe I'm a weirdo, but if I was going to murder someone, I wouldn't call an ambulance.
@freemo @coolboymew @ChristiJunior

@wishgranter14

No that was not Chauvin or his partner. The other cops on the scene before chauvin arrived call the EMT. Chauvin wasnt even aware the EMT had been called till much later

@ChristiJunior @coolboymew

No, they called for an ambulance when Floyd was crying about not being able to breath and had banged his head on the squad car. This was before he was put on the ground. And he was put on the ground because he asked to be put on the ground. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJlQvOgEx58 Watch that video. It takes the incident step by step. This was not murder. You could argue manslaughter, but even then that's a stretch since there is no evidence a strangulation occurred.
@freemo @ChristiJunior @coolboymew

@coolboymew @freemo @ChristiJunior If they voted to acquit all of their loved ones would be in danger and their info would be spread all over the internet. They'd probably end up fired and blackballed from employment, too. They would have to leave the country.

That's how mob rule works. These trials are show trials as long as jurors have the threat of violent or financial retaliation hanging over them. We cannot have a just legal system as long as this remains the case.

@mrsaturday @coolboymew @ChristiJunior @freemo when did everyone become such a pusillanimous worm?

@mrsaturday @ChristiJunior @freemo The Judge did a really retarded job with the jurors, they should've been in protection custody, and with technology nowadays, there was 0 excuse to have them be on site

@mrsaturday @coolboymew @ChristiJunior @freemo The solution is to take action to ensure that in the future people are more afraid of what we're going to do to them if they side with the niggers than what the niggers will do to them if they don't. There is no other option.

@coolboymew @freemo @ChristiJunior The judge already said any conviction could be overturned due to jury tampering. At that point what does the jury do, deliberate on the charges? Nah, just guilty on everything to appease the mob then hope it becomes someone else's problem on appeal.

@coolboymew @freemo @ChristiJunior the one question i don't see anyone asking and its kind of irrelevant to the trial is if he knew there was fentanyl in his drugs or not because there is a big problem with fentanyl being snuck into other drugs without the buyers knowledge and sometimes the dealer doesn't know either, its a mystery where its getting into the supply chain and a big problem for the dealers so they are actually unhappy this is happening and obviously the users who dying of overdoses are not happy with the situation either. If he was on fentanyl . When i first heard he was on drugs I thought it was a myth and disinformation but in the trial it was revealed that he was in fact on drugs, which doesn't really effect the verdict anyways

@Bubbul @ChristiJunior @freemo if you check the video, you can clearly see that he is high as fuck and can barely even understand the orders

@coolboymew
I never denied that. Does t change the fact the Chauvin continued to sit on his neck even after he was told he had no pulse... No other evidence of any kind makes hi. I. Ocent when thst fact is true.
@Bubbul @ChristiJunior

@freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior I just checked back, bullshit

There was no professional on the scene to give a confirmation, the passerbys are NOT professionals and the retards in the crowd were being quite belligerent really making the situation worse

@coolboymew @freemo @Bubbul @ChristiJunior you're arguing with a leftist who believes in the cnn unreality narrative.

@Nudhul @coolboymew @Bubbul @freemo And that a nonsensical verdict after blatant jury intimidation is Justice.