@Eris can you even read? I just accepted your premise in the last message... please read...
@AR-15 oh no! did I break your heart by appearing dishonest my dear?
@Eris I'm so sorry I'm so broken, to be able to accept one's premise in an argument is a horrible mental illness I know. Thank you for your concern.
You condescendingly used a strawman version of my premise to argue against me.
That is not accepting the premise, it is rejecting it with extra steps.
Here's a hint: If you do not agree with a premise, you do not accept it.
Do you agree or disagree? Choose one, they are mutually exclusive.
@Eris learn english? @AR-15 @bonifartius
@AR-15 I don't care to be nice yo you, I'm sorry again if I heart your feelings, you can block me or mute me or whatever
Argue your point. Stop arguing about whether or not you're arguing. This is just silly.
@AR-15 If you want to see my argument it's in my reply to OP, and in my first reply to Eris. Past that it's Eris pretending that I'm arguing something I'm not arguing.
What is it that you are arguing then? Because you seem to think we're retarded and you clearly don't like us. I'm begging you, please say "my point is: ___." Stop doing this meta abstraction bullshit. It just makes you sound like you're hoping you'll make yourself sound smart (you're not) and confuse us into saying you were right, and it sounds like you're doubling down because you really don't want to have an actual argument, you just want to jelq your midwit IQ.
@AR-15 Here is a direct quotr from my reply to OP
> People lost close friends and family to this pandemic and
the thorn in all of your sides, that will torment you till the end of days... not let me blow your minds... simply remove it (the exactly text I pasted here) from my reply... the point still stands... if you can't see it all I can tell you is "learn to read", I'm sorry again for hurting your feelings
"Here is a vague allusion to what my point is and a condescending comment about how you are insufficiently smart to read my mind, rather than just a clear unambiguous statement of my position"
Stop doing this.
@Eris I wrote it down... do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
>do you want me to copy paste it here or something?
I want you to type a single sentence that clearly tells me what the fuck you are trying to say.
@Eris I did it in my first reply, and now also clarified that the thing you are so hung up on, is so inconsequential to it that you can literally remove it, can you do a basic edit, and re read it? Or will you keep playing dumb forever?
@AR-15 @bonifartius
You never did
>you have to edit my words to find out what I meant because I'm not going to tell you!
Ok
@AR-15 I asked yo edit the part that you are hung up on to demonstrate how inconsequential it is, to the main point. I wrote what I mean, if you are too lazy to scroll up I'll link.
@Eris @bonifartius
@AR-15 If there is absolutely nothing you can latch on to to ask a question or present an argument, I can't help you. If you ask me to write the same thing again I'll write it the same way.
@AR-15 Which part didn't make sense to you? There was a non trivial amount. @Eris @bonifartius
@AR-15 I'm said many times that for the purpose of this discussion you may assume that I think there is no pandemic. This is part of me trying to explain to you the original point. But you are not willing to try to understand the original point. All you want is for me to say what you want me to say and argue with you about what you want me to argue with you about. And i couldn't care less about that particular thing.
And yes, I want you to argue with me about what you came here to argue about. I don't want you to argue about whether or not you are arguing or whether your arguments are arguments.
@AR-15 in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda, but then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read, and are hell bent on arguing with an imaginary opponent that you want me to play the role of. Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
@Eris @bonifartius
>in this particular case initially to roast bonafartius on particular things he wrote, which you are completely ignoring in favor of your own agenda,
My agenda is to point out how disingenuous and psychotic that "roast" is.
>ut then also to repeatedly point out how Eris and you just can't read,
That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
>Unfortunately my life does not revolve around the pandemic or any other drama that in one way or the other is relevant to you in this context, so I can't satiate your desires.
Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.
>That's not pointing something out. That's alleging something. Pointing it out would be showing us what we can't read, and demonstrating that we didn't read it.
I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
>Does it have to in order for you to answer a simple question when you are replying anyway? Why? Weird standard.
I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
>I pointed it out multiple times, in a lot of detail.
No you just keep saying "I pointed it out" without ever doing so.
>I answered the question multiple times in multiple ways as well, but it would never satisfy you unless I match your zeal, and play your game.
I will tell you when you have answered it.
@Eris
>I will tell you when you have answered it
exactly my point
>exactly my point
Your point is that I want you to clarify yourself to me?
Good, that is also my point.
@Eris no that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say, your friend AR-15 has even clarified what exactly you want me to say, and that nothing else will satisfy you
>that you will never be satisfied unless I say what you want me to say,
...Yes? That's how being satisfied works?
@Eris It is written can you not read? If you can tell me what exactly is confusing to you, minding the edit that I suggested to clarify my point.
>It is written can you not read?
No, I am not able to read what you wrote and divine what is in your head. You are a dumb person and you wrote it poorly.
Please write it again, in a new way.
This is called "Rephrasing yourself."
When you reach highschool you will do this a lot.
@Eris help me rephrase the part that confuses you. If not a single word made sense to you, then I can't help you.
>. If not a single word made sense to you, then I can't help you.
This if/then statement is actually not true.
Write the whole thing, tell me your point from scratch. It's not hard.
@Eris the point was a reply to the OP, I have to retell the whole story? Again put some effort into it yourself, then maybe I'll match it.
>the point was a reply to the OP
"The point of my post was a post
What was the substance of your reply?
> I have to retell the whole story
Yes, and you've asked this question 5 billion times instead of just retelling the whole story. It would cost you less time and effort to retell the whole story.
> again which part did you not understand?
The part where you are "roasting" OP for something based on lies that you say you know are lies.
@Eris how can it be based on something, that I said you can safely remove, because it was extraneous?
> that I said you can safely remove, because it was extraneous?
It's not extraneous, it's fundamental.
If there is no pandemic, then you are bullying a girl for acting as though there is no pandemic.
With or without this premise = you are good or you are evil.
It's pretty essential.
@Eris ok, you decide what my point was, as I said you will never be satisfied unless I say exactly what you want me to say
>as I said you will never be satisfied unless I say exactly what you want me to say
Yes, do you remember when you said this 5 minutes and I said yes?
@AR-15 because that is the meta BS, and not what the OP was about, but alas you refuse to read the OP, or my original reply, and insist that your derailing are the OP
@AR-15 I replied to it directly many times. but unless I say what you want me to say, word for word, and not what I actually think, you will not be satisfied.
> I replied to it directly many times.
Repeatedly telling us that you have done this will not make us think we have. This reveals a fundamental failure of theory of mind on your part.
> but unless I say what you want me to say, word for word, and not what I actually think,
We want you to say, word for word, what you actually think.
Please do it now.
>So you want me to just role play someone I'm not and not to say what I think
No, the exact opposite of that.
What we want, what will satisfy us, is if you say what you think.
We are dying to know.
@Eris I told it multiple times, that for the purposes of this conversation I accepted your premise, and otherwise I couldn't care less, but you will never be satisfied, unless I say exactly what you want to hear, almost word per word.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
> that for the purposes of this conversation I accepted your premise, and otherwise I couldn't care less,
That's not an answer, it's two excuses not to give one.
I don't care if you care. Answer it anyway. It would cost you less than spending 5 hours arguing about how you don't have to.
Exactly. Choose one or the other. How can you accept my premise? That makes you an unapologetic cunt? Why would you accept that premise?
@AR-15 no my point stands, even if pandemic does not exist, read it again with the edit I suggested, if there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
>even if pandemic does not exist, read it again with the edit I suggested, if there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
If the pandemic does not exist (it doesn't) then your post is the post of a condescending cunt who is engaging in a struggle session. If the pandemic does not exist (it doesn't) you are evil. You are evil.
If there is something in particular you don't understand, ask.
@Eris you did not address anything particular from the my reply, but sure keep asserting your truth and pray for it to magically manifests itself
> you did not address anything particular from the my reply,
Yes because my problem is with the premise of your question, that there is a pandemic.
@Eris there is no such premise in my question. there is such premise in the OP, that is not my premise, and m argument does not rest on it
>there is no such premise in my question
Yes, there is.
> there is such premise in the OP,
No, there isn't.
@Eris then once again you simply can't read
>then once again you simply can't read
I cannot read what you wrote and tell what you meant by it, that is correct. Do you remember when you said this 5 minutes ago and I said the same thing?
> and m argument does not rest on it
I still don't know what that alleged argument is.
@Eris cause you refuse to read it, or the OP
@Eris it would be very easy if you told me which part you did not understand. Again if it's all of it then I can't help you any further. If you think the OP claims that pandemic is not real, you are also completely missing that point, and not even trying to read it properly.
>Again if it's all of it then I can't help you any further.
Again, yes you can.
>and not even trying to read it properly.
I don't know how to read it properly, so I can't try. It's your job to show me.
This is how "conversations" work.
@Eris It's not my job to teach you to read another persons post when you are clearly not even trying and claiming absurdities based on your own delusions, I'm not your english tutor, I'm just enjoying the shitshow.
>when you are clearly not even trying and claiming absurdities based on your own delusions,
I am clearly trying very hard. I have asked for your help dozens of times. How can I try harder? What more can I do?
What have you done to try to be understood?
@Eris asking is not trying. Trying is when you read it and think about what it meant. Do it several times if you wish. Think for some time. Ask about what specifically does not make sense to you.
> asking is not trying
Actually, in a conversation, the unit of effort is questions. To the degree that you ask questions and listen to their answers, you are conversing.
I calculated your ratio of doing this above. You got a very bad score.
@Eris I'm talking about trying to read not trying to confess your love for me.
I don't want to be understood.
Yes, boomer trolling. Noticeably a vague and intrinsically ignorant facsimile of the real thing as all boomer things are.
"What is in the cabinet?"
"The thing in the cabinet."
"Yes, but what is it?"
"The thing in the cabinet."