> you did not address anything particular from the my reply,
Yes because my problem is with the premise of your question, that there is a pandemic.
@Eris there is no such premise in my question. there is such premise in the OP, that is not my premise, and m argument does not rest on it
Please clarify your argument. Is my perception of it wrong, yes or no? If I'm wrong, then what is your argument?
@AR-15 ever tried looking past dichotomy? He said he barely overheard some people saying "dunno what" about unvaxinated, and that he is freaking terrified of that. I told him to not be a pussy and next time go talk to them and figure out what they were about, instead of running home and posting paranoid crap over that particular incident. I don't care about overarching narrative of pro or anti pandemic BS you have going on here, and can't look past.
>hey man are you talking about the pandemic?
"We're not arguing! :) you're just dumb!"
>what the fuck? Are you talking about the pandemic?
>>>>5 hours later
"No lol! I'm talking about genocide."
@AR-15 It's not my fault that you don't know how to talk to people. No judgement for you disability, only for your cowardice.
@AR-15 Again can't read what I write. Where did you write go ask them directly what you are freaking paranoid about. I simple said go talk to them, pretend to be e terrible fascist vaxer if that's what it takes, but I understand if that too much for your sensitivities, not bonafartius though, I will talk to him if he replies
>pretend to be e terrible fascist vaxer if that's what it takes, but I understand if that too much for your sensitivities, not bonafartius though, I will talk to him if he replies
Why go through an elaborate plot to learn something obvious?
@Eris it's not an elaborate plot it's called a smalltalk. You can't do it I understand, you are too afraid, not to worry.
Being deceptive in order to gain information is an elaborate plot. "Small talk" is a psychopathic learned behavior.
@Eris yes pastor, i convert
I am literally a deacon and I am literally trying to convert you.
Repeating that back to me and adding a sarcastic tone is not insightful.
@Eris you may assign any tone you want to my writing, I don't mind
I try to assign the one you intend. I do not think I have made any errors.
Are you going to seriously claim that you were *unironically* saying "Yes pastor, I convert?"
I don't know why you tell these extremely goofy lies.
@Eris You seemed to have a problem with the tone and not intent, so I wanted to help you. If it is intent that you are after than I'm afraid that there is nothing for you but faith in this matter.
@AR-15 I never claimed anything like that.
@Eris @bonifartius
@AR-15 ah I see, you didn't notice I'm snarky, understandable
@Eris I enjoy it
@AR-15 @bonifartius
That seems pretty psychopathic to me. You enjoy intentionally irritating others for no reason but your own pleasure?
@Eris It's a writing style, I don't care if anyone reads it, other than for them to meet me with the their own style, and have a little bit of an argument in between.
1. Why would you write something if you don't care if anyone reads it? What is even the point?
2. I am reading what you write, there is no if about it. Act accordingly. Write for your audience of one. This is how conversations work. There are two people.
@Eris I said what precicely I care about when writing, learn to read, lean english yada yayda
>I said what precicely I care about when writing, learn to read, lean english yada yayda
Only concerned with what you care about, not what we care about.
@Eris yes I care about what I care about, and that's what I tell when you ask me what I care about
@Eris I believe so
@Eris not when you ask me what I care about... you asked me what I care about I answered, otherwise I'm not particularly willing to share my whole philosophy with you... you followed me, so just wait and see
@AR-15 @bonifartius
>not when you ask me what I care about...
You're establishing a new context which we weren't operating in order to tactically draw a weird distinction to avoid just acknowledging me as right, out of a weird obsessive desire to be disagreeable.
@Eris right about what? that I'm evil? i never disputed that... @AR-15 @bonifartius
@Eris can't wrap your head around it can you mu righteous friend? Again you may wait and see. I talk here once in a while.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
@Eris I'm afraid no matter what I say, the only thing that's important for you is what you want me to say...
@AR-15 @bonifartius
>I'm afraid no matter what I say, the only thing that's important for you is what you want me to say...
What I want you to say is anything.
@Eris Then I said it. I don't know. Not with your bizarre definitions of words.
Style without substance is not saying anything. Literally all you have said this entire thread is snarky bullshit, zero substance, zero firm statements of what you think or why.
@AR-15 Stop misinterpreting my words, I meant you want me to say something specific you have in mind. Not only I don't know what you have in mind, I'm not even particularly curious in this instance.
> I meant you want me to say something specific you have in mind
No, we don't. We want you to say what specifically you have in mind.
@Eris I have nothing in mind of that particular question other than what I answered. @AR-15 @bonifartius
>I have nothing in mind
You being dumb is not acceptable to me. Put something in your mind, then tell me what it is. Think.
@Eris Not being obsessed with what you are obsessed about is not the same as being dumb. You want to talk about c++?
"Obsessed" by implication argues that what is being talked about is pointless.
You have this belief. Do I have this belief? Do I think that I am obsessed? Would I agree with you that I am obsessed?
It's ludicrous how much you get frustrated when we take you at your word. Especially when you have repeatedly said you care more about style than substance, and that you don't care how we interpret your words. Crazy how the only interpretation you don't want us to take is the obvious one. The normal one.
> I want you to say either yes or no. I don't care which.
I do care which, which is why I'm asking. I don't know.
@Eris You care for it to be defined dichotomy known to all by nature. That is a massive assertion.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
>You care for it to be defined dichotomy known to all by nature. That is a massive assertion.
Uh, no, it isn't. A thing is either real or it isn't. Which is it?
We're not asking about "known to all by nature" We are asking for your opinion specifically, because you are who we are talking to.
@Eris My opinion is that it is not a dichotomy know to all by nature, as it is not known to me by my nature. Hence my question to you. How would I tell?
>My opinion is that it is not a dichotomy know to all by nature, as it is not known to me by my nature.
What does any of this even mean?
>How would I tell?
How would you tell if there was a Pandemic or not?
...Are you retarded?
@AR-15 if you are the sole authority to judge my jewishness by my nose, why not assign my jewisness instead regardless of my nose? You are the authority after all...
>You are the authority after all...
Yes, when you are in an argument or a discussion with someone, or any social interaction at all, they are the authority judging you, and you them.
We are judging you, and you should endeavor to be judged well.
@Eris go ahead assign it then, what do you want from me? I'm already assigned evil, jewish can't be much harder than that.
@Eris sorry my love, but I'm with another...
Weird irony will not work at scaring me away, stop trying it.
I want you to care. When I call you evil, if you're not, I want you to say you're not, and why.
I want you to show the slightest indication that you are a human being and not a deranged psychopath.
I want the question "Am I evil?" to matter to you, rather than be something you laugh at.
@Eris how endearing... try a rigorous mathematical theory next time, that tends to work on me
You can give every opportunity to redeem themselves and they will never ever take it.
@AR-15 I would suggest you to study the logical structure and definition of dichotomy or equivalence relations in general, then define me one that I can recognize. But that would be beneath your dignity I presume.
I read this post and I translate its words to "I am smart, and cool, and you are not smart, and beneath me. Therefore, I have a valid excuse to not be reasonable with you. Please accept this excuse and go away."
Am I understanding you correctly?
@Eris no I'm saying look up terms dichotomy and equivalence relation, try to study them and see how they apply in this context
@AR-15 @bonifartius
Why not jus ttell me how they apply in this context? Why do you make me guess what you think instead of just typing it?
@Eris Cause it is too broad and expansive subject and I'm sadly not your tutor.
@AR-15 @bonifartius
Make your points as broad and expansive as you can manage to express, otherwise you're not actually making them.
You don't score points by alluding to maybe a point you might make if you have the time.
Make your points. Tell is what you think.
@Eris if you are not making any effort to understand me, and I have to chew everything up for you, then you will never understand me... or perhaps in time by accident
@AR-15 @bonifartius
> if you are not making any effort to understand me,
We ask you a simple yes or no question that should be easy to answer and you say I don't know.
How do we try to understand nothing at all?
"I can't answer that" is not an answer. It's the exact opposite of an answer.
@Eris I'm sorry I doubted the absolute of dichotomy. Of course everything in this world is dichotomy. I couldn't even say I don't know, even if I wanted, what happened didn't happen, as it is impossible for it to happen. Or maybe instead just cope. Or regurgitate some more of that religion of yours.
>I'm sorry I doubted the absolute of dichotomy.
Some dichotomies are absolutely true and doubting them is silly and you should apologize for absurdly trying to doubt them.
There is no third answer to "is there a pandemic?" There literally either is or isn't. It is a dichotomy. Please explain to me how it can possibly not be. Please explain to me what is hard about answering this question?
Here, I'll do it: No, there is not.
See? It's not hard. You are allowed to think something for yourself, it doesn't have to be an "all known fact." It can be what you think. Tell us what you think. You have our permission.
Cringe. A thing is or it is not. I don't need to study in order to know this.
Every. Single. Time.