Silencing Spinster Instance for all of QOTO, CW for Length
After much discussion among the mod team we've decided to silence the @spinster instance for QOTO users.
We do not take the silencing of an instance to be anything less than totally serious. We have had issues with being silenced and we do not wish to simply ban an instance because they disagree with us.
Abuse and harassment without moderator comment, however, is a different story.
There are many showings of misandry, anti-trans ideologies, and abusive behaviors dressed up in the guise of 'Protecting an Oppressed Class'.
We at QOTO do acknowledge that there are a great many issues facing women in this world, and that indeed the current social structure of society is almost certainly stacked against them, as it is other oppressed and minority groups.
We cannot, however, support an instance that has little to no moderation of it's more extreme elements that cross the lines of understood acceptable behavior on Mastodon.
It is important to note that this is not necessarily a permanent decision. Should Spinster change their moderation stance on their users and begin to better police their instance we will be happy to unsilence and try again to have a relationship with these people who are undoubtedly trying to fight for what they feel is correct.
As I have said before, and will say again:
It isn't what you say that's important, it is how you say it.
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Silencing Spinster Instance for all of QOTO, CW for Length
Silencing Spinster Instance for all of QOTO, CW for Length
Do you think we could wait until @alex is back in town to proceed, so that he can check what's what and give us his opinion?
Silencing Spinster Instance for all of QOTO, CW for Length
@arteteco @freemo @alex @Surasanji @mk I would personally be against blocking a whole instance. Can't we just silence the impolite and abusive?
Silencing Spinster Instance for all of QOTO, CW for Length
Well keep in mind we arent blocing the instance at all, we are silencing. that means if you wish to follow someone you can and will see their posts once you do. but unless you follow someone you wont know the instance exists.
The reason we cant simply moderate their individual users is because they arent on our server. Moderating our own userbase is a full time job, moderating the millions of people across the whole fediverse individually is impossible. Especially if you have mods that let anything go and wont act themselves.
Consider a similar scenario, a intentional bad-actor instance. No moderation of any kind. So someone who is really upset at you decides to write a bot (or do it manually) and start creating a new account every 15 minutes to send you harassment and spam. Sure you can block them but every 15 minutes they just get a new account and start over, no moderation so nothing you can do. you would be forced to be exposed to that. Thats why we step in. Basically if a person chooses to disengage from a conversation, they have a right to (As you just pointed out). the only time we will react at an instance level is when that right is violated as it has been here.
Silencing Spinster Instance for all of QOTO, CW for Length
@freemo @arteteco @alex @Surasanji @mk I get it. And though it hasn't come to that at this point, I understand your wanting to keep things safe and reasonable. I trust you will do what you feel is right, and I am here as a guest. I just felt I should let my opinion be known, in case it mattered.
It's your bat and your ball, and whatever you choose to do I will happily live with.
I trust your judgement, If I wanted drama I would have stayed on birdsite and followed the president. :)
Silencing Spinster Instance for all of QOTO, CW for Length
@Absinthe
Your opinion. and everyones opinions matter and are valuable. Always feel free to share them so long as you do so with respect as you always have.
@arteteco @alex @Surasanji @mk