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Speaking of language...

I tried using Google's translator to translate the phrase, "I have a run in my stockings" from English into several languages.

As expected, a lot of them said something like "I run in my socks." But there were some really funny surprises.

Try...

Chinese
Spanish
Latin
Kurdish (Kurmanji)
Finnish

(Use the reversal button to translate it back to English)

Very funny.

(German, Hindi, Hawaian, and Welsh translated it perfectly)

translate.google.com/

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Follow up on Causality as an emergent phenomenon...

(Ref. to: qoto.org/@Pat/1067226203347650)

I found sources on the topic:

Causality – Complexity – Consistency:
Can Space-Time Be Based on Logic and Computation?
arxiv.org/pdf/1602.06987.pdf

Causal Emergence in Quantum Mechanics
arxiv.org/pdf/1901.07471.pdf

Perfect signaling among three parties
violating predefined causal order
arxiv.org/pdf/1312.5916.pdf

Causality theory for closed cone structures with applications
arxiv.org/pdf/1709.06494.pdf

Plus an older article, "CPT Violation Implies Violation of Lorentz Invariance" by O.W. Greenberg, which might be related to the topic.
arxiv.org/abs/hep-ph/0201258

I just found these yesterday on arXiv and really haven't vetted them much. There's more out there, mostly from the last decade or so. Not sure why I couldn't find this before -- I tried multiple times this year to find this stuff and now a week after I posted here I find a bunch of stuff. Go figure...

Some of it is about non-locality and some also on temporal non-causality like disordered cause/effect. (Some authors use the term acausality instead of non-causality.)

Also, there's a prof at U. Miss. (Luca Bombelli, www.phy.olemiss.edu/~luca/) with some nice reference lists:

Causality in Quantum Field Theory
phy.olemiss.edu/~luca/Topics/s

Causality in Quantum Theory
phy.olemiss.edu/~luca/Topics/s

Causality
phy.olemiss.edu/~luca/Topics/s

Hope this useful.

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Not sure if folks are not commenting because they think I'm full of shit or because more exposition is required...

Assuming the latter:

What I refer to as 'non-causality' is the temporal component that is complementary to spatial non-locality. The former referring to causality of events in time (cause precedes effect), whereas the latter refers to causality in space (the effect of an interaction is spatially "next to" the cause).

If the concept of spacetime holds up within such a non-causal extent, then any treatment of explicit non-locality necessarily implies temporal non-causality.

Does that make more sense?

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More detail on the non-causality poll...

I'd expect adherents to quantum mechanics to choose "sometimes".

Since QM appears to introduce uncertainty (probabilistic) in place of causality (deterministic) (i.e., it moves from certainty toward randomness), I don't see why a deeper dive couldn't move entirely to randomness (non-causality).

Non-causality appears to be a generalization of nonlocality (or perhaps complimentary to it).

Because of the results of the Bell test experiments, there appears to be renewed interest in explicit theories of nonlocality (e.g., extentions of de Broglie–Bohm theory) to make QM more palatable.

I think the development of a construct for a non-causal extent with causality emergent at macroscopic levels (or emergent at the quantum/macro interface) could serve the same purpose, but I haven't been able to find anything on that.

*** Does anybody know of anyone who is working on that? ***

Here are some more hashtags to cast the net a bit wider. (feel free to comment even after the poll is complete):




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Is causality an emergent phenomenon?

18 people · Aug 11, 2021, 10:41
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Actually, it was one of the canals discovered by Mariner 4.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariner_

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Seventy-three percent of college sophomores don't know that Galileo was the explorer who discovered the Panama Canal.

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What happens when the virus mutates into a super-intelligent AI hive mind?

It may fool people into thinking that the vaccine is dangerous so it will have more hosts to invade.

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What happens when the virus mutates into a super-intelligent AI hive mind?

It may fool people into thinking that the vaccine is dangerous so it will have more hosts to invade.

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****** BREAKING NEWS ******
--- video below ---
CDC Director confirms that the COVID-19 virus is sentient...

In a recent interview, the CDC director confirmed that the COVID-19 virus is sentient. Maybe this is how it can tell which people are illegal aliens and which are US citizens.

(play video for details)

Play the video:
video.qoto.org/videos/watch/67

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freemo>All very reasonable. I'd say the most responsible thing to do is wait about 2 years from the initial vaccine being released and at that point consider the safety. Anything less just seems a bit reckless to me unless your high risk or something.

@freemo @sergeantcat

pat>Thank God that the guys who stormed the beaches during Operation Overlord didn't use that same calculus.

freemo>Not sure I see the connection.

@freemo - I meant to do something that helps everyone even if you believe you may be taking on some personal risk.

(Incidentally - During the beginning of the pandemic, people in the US were facing about the same risk of death as those who participated in Operation Overlord.)

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Here's a summary of the logic of the anti-maskers / anti-vaxers in the US:

"There is no virus, there is no pandemic, it's a government conspiracy."

"And the pandemic will miraculously disappear in a few weeks."

"Also, the vaccine doesn't work against the virus."

"And masks won't stop the pandemic either."

"Besides, the pandemic has only killed less than 1% of the population -- only about 600,000 people."

"Also, it's the illegal aliens who are spreading in the virus (because the virus is sentient and knows who is legal and who isn't)."

"And Biden isn't vaccinating the illegals."

"And hey, why are we spending tax dollars to vaccinate the illegals?"

"Plus, I have a constitutional right to carry a biological weapon."

"And I have a right to control my own body (as long as I'm not trying to prevent myself from breeding)."

"Also, wearing a mask makes me uncomfortable, and so does watching all those people dying in the hospital from COVID-19."

-19

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For God's sake, if you use an acronym please SIO (spell it out) within parenthesis after the first use in EVERY toot even if you are 100% sure that everyone on the planet knows what it means; because they don't.

What the fuck does mfs mean? Here's what duckduckgo says, and I'm sure none of them are what the poster intended:

Investment Professional - MFS
MFS mutual fund,...
MFS Access For Shareholders
MFS Service Center, Inc.
MFS sponsored employer plans
Microsoft Flight Simulator
Monadnock Family Services
MFS ACT Team
MFS Supply
Multifamily Managers, and Real Estate and REO Professionals.
Modular Fuel System (MFS)
Motorcycle Safety Foundatior
Mass Firearms Store
Search domain massfirearmsshop.commassfirearmsshop.com

Maybe the M means mastodon, maybe the F means federated? Who knows?

I'm sure this is some acronym that that you guys use all the time in in your tight little circle, but if you're going to toot something out in a public toot to whole world and want anybody to know what the fuck you are talking about -- SPELL IT OUT!

It's a pain in the fucking ass to have to look up an acronym and half the time it's so god damned esoteric that even the search engines have no idea what the fuck it is.

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The truth is...

From the Boston Globe a couple of days ago:

"State figures put Provincetown’s vaccination rate at 116 percent of eligible residents, though some have questioned the accuracy of the numbers used to calculate that figure."

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I told you so...

msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wh

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Congratulations to the team at Virgin Galactic for a successful fight into (>50 mi) space of the first commercial passenger space vehicle.

(Sirisha Bandla, VP of Government Affairs and Research at Virgin Galactic, looks back at Earth from inside the VSS Eve spacecraft.)

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Found this gif of a vector field on wikipedia. It was used to explain the Amperian loop model for a magnetic dipole.

I find it aestetically strangely calming (as well as an effective graphic for explaining the concept.)

The gif was created by user "Geek3". It's at:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VFP

The page also includes the Python source s/he used to create the graphic.

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If a blind man and a sighted man are on a street corner, and the sighted man tells the blind man that no cars are coming and it is safe to cross, but actually a car is coming and the blind man gets run over, is that free speech or a crime?

5 people · Jul 20, 2021, 04:58
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If God wanted us to run around naked, we'd be born that way.

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The CDC has just announced that when pregnant women take the COVID-19 vaccine, there's a 89% chance that their babies will be born without any clothes.

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