SecondJon @SecondJon@qoto.org

@mathlover
Yes, I agree... I think accepting late votes in person or in mail presents legal problems. If course with mail in ballots, the voter doesn't control when the ballot is in,which is one of many concerns.

Here in Colorado we have mail in voting, so every name /address on file gets a ballot, whether the person is alive or lives there, and there's nothing to stop porch pirates from becoming ballot pirates and stealing someone's vote.

I always vote in person or hand-deliver my ballot. This way I still know my vote was in on time and cast by me.

@mathlover Agreed on the constitutionality of changing the official date of the election.

If an absentee/mailed ballot isn't received and counted by election day, should it still be counted? And if so, how different would that be than Trump's "delaying the election"?

I also wonder how we'd have confidence in state's rules around mail ins... I don't know if they align today... maybe some states allow late voting by mail (ie., count every ballot even if it was dropped in the mail a week after the election, or in the trunk of a car and miraculously discovered after the election).

There's certainly some questions worth answering when changing the whole system of voting.

@freemo

I wonder if an objective study of the studies of studies would be more confident in face masks or nicotine.

Maybe Trump can take the opposite position and be more Churchillian at the same time - Biden with his face covered, Trump with a cigar.🤣

Using both may double our chances of health. Off to make a medical purchase at the local tobacconist. 😂

@EVoCeO @Demosthenes

Bwahahaha

@TheBabylonBee

@mhjohnson oh my! I hadn't looked
Here in Denver it's forever to be 96,96,90, then snow. Brilliant.

@ParkerTechGuy

@freemo

There is an old surgeon General health study that, is I recall correctly, showed that pipe smokers lived longer than people who were non smokers. Not sure if there's equivalent studies about vapes or nicotine gum.

@Demosthenes @EVoCeO

@freemo
Because they have class? :)
@Demosthenes @EVoCeO

@Demosthenes
I also wonder if it's still true that nicotine is preventative, and if so, why aren't cigars or pipes being prescribed (due to their significantly lower risk of other health impacts compared to cigarettes).

@EVoCeO @freemo

@Demosthenes

I understand the assertion, my questions were about the quality and contents of the data.

@EVoCeO @freemo

@Demosthenes @EVoCeO

Here's what I don't know. I've been told that risk factors aren't documented as a cause of death. Is that right? If someone with asthma or hypertension or whatever, died with covid, would asthma or hypertension actually be listed as a cause of death?

I know locally that medical providers are paid higher reimbursement rates of their patients died with covid, and a friend who is a support at an area sheriff has been on the scene of the deaths due to violent crime that get documented as covid deaths. We get more of what we incentivise, which I think leads in this case to bad data that's easy to not trust.

@freemo