SecondJon @SecondJon@qoto.org

"They have succeeded in amassing more and more things, but have less and less joy."

Dostoyevski, The Brothers Karamazov

@freemo
On this topic you may be putting to much faith in those reporting the numbers, which includes a lot of politics a lot of inconsistency and not a lot of transparency.

A 30 seconds web search verified what I had remembered. Colorado had been reporting as covid deaths those who didn't die of covid and changed its numbers only when caught.

"The story involved a 35-year-old man from Montezuma County who died May 4 of alcohol poisoning but whose death was counted in Colorado’s COVID-19 death toll."

“We have been reporting at the state, deaths among people who had COVID-19 at the time of death and the cause of that death may or may not have been COVID-19,” Dr. Eric France, the health department's chief medical officer...

It would be nice if what you said was true, that these lists were unrelated and had little to do with deaths reported as covid deaths, but that's verifiably false just here in my state where they got caught. You have confidence that everywhere around the world the doctors and political forces responsible for reporting these numbers are accurate, honest, and globally consistent? Really? Even with this story proving that not to be the case?

Over the last few weeks I have confirmed with several work colleagues in India that they are having family diagnosed with covid (several of whom have Died From Covid) with no covid tests at all. So they're covid deaths, though without any kind of test to indicate such.

But back to the original topic, that Coloradan who died of alcohol poisoning, his death should be considered a covid death or not regardless of his vaccination status. In just putting out a request for consistency.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-lowers-coronavirus-death-count

@freemo @icedquinn Here in Colorado after a report of an obvious non covid death (a gunshot victim I think) being included in covid deaths they clarified that the numbers meant deaths of people WITH covid, not DUE TO covid. I think at some point this expanded to people EXPOSED to others who had covid.

I have very little confidence that the governments pushing or reporting these numbers are going so consistently or accurately.

Now, whether a gunshot victim with covid died before or after being vaccinated shouldn't change whether that death is counted as a covid death. To discount numbers only on one side or the other seems clearly problematic.

@ThatDude no, the opposite of while guilt may be individual empowerment. Thinking of the writings of Shelby Steele which I highly recommend.

https://bookshop.org/books/white-guilt-how-blacks-and-whites-together-destroyed-the-promise-of-the-civil-rights-era-9781664791381/9780060578633

@WuTangHam @echoteecat I passed a masked someone on the #running trail yesterday. I thought of 4 possibilities :

1. Virtue signaling that they're not a conservative (like Hogg)
2. Virtue signaling that they're not vaccinated (local rules say vaccinated folks can be mask free)
3. They're really really ugly.
4. They live in and make decisions out of irrational fear.

NIH deleted data from early Wuhan COVID samples because a Chinese scientist asked them to.

https://notthebee.com/article/nih-deleted-data-from-early-wuhan-covid-samples-because-a-chinese-scientist-asked-them-to

Someone decided to Follow The Science instead #followthescience and found the data and its revealing.

Flying today, the TSA staff require everyone to put a face mask on to get through security.... Then immediately ask for the mask to come off for visual identification check.

@ReadyKilowatt LOL. Nothing here is personal... Mostly when I hear peeps insulting millennials lack of values it's coming from the generation that was tasked to pass on values, so I find it self destructive when followed through.

Also.... Looking at the charts, gen X didn't seem to be much different than millennials. I don't fit with the charts.... But that means that to average out there's people faring far far worse than the charts represent.

@stsmith wait now.... If pride gets more than one month, there won't be enough time to celebrate the rest of the seven deadly sins.

@Secftblgirl ha. Is there a source for this or is it just a funny meme without data behind it?

@TaggyT@noagendasocial.com @ReadyKilowatt Agreed. But should millennials have divined ROI from nowhere? Of course the non profitable degree won't teach that there's no ROI there, it'd be bad for business. But certainly this is something the parents of millennials (boomers) may have missed.

At the same time, I don't understand those who as adults signed contracts to borrow and repay then beg for their agreed upon debts to be wiped away.

@freemo congrats! I love first editions. I have one from a favorite author from over 100 years ago my wife got me as a gift. We have several first editions now, but it's rare to have them over a century old.

@ReadyKilowatt

As fun as it is to see boomers attack the generation they raised and see millennials respond in kind...the article seems to key this not off of lower wages due to hours worked nor lavish lifestyle spending but the dramatic increase in the cost of higher education. I wonder who was the driving force for millennials in pursuit of college degrees no matter the debt required.

The old SNL sketch with Steve Martin and his book Don't Spend Money You Don't Have would serve boomers, Xers, and millennials alike.

@barefootstache hm. It's complicated by the fact that they hand picked items to survey, and what did they hand pick? 🤣

Two-thirds (65%) of the high-engagement true statements were characterized as benefiting liberals, while only 10% of accurate claims were considered beneficial to conservatives. On the other side, 46% of falsehoods were rated as advantageous to conservatives, compared to 23% of false claims benefiting liberals.

Looks like a pretty stacked deck to me. Looks from this like the survey ended up : 7 out of 8 of these true statements align with liberal talking points. Meanwhile 5 of these 7 false things are false and align with with conservative taking points. We're shocked, shocked I tell you that when surveyed people agree with stacked headlines that align with their preexisting bias.