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I feel like it would be nice to have an always-on VO-IP conference channel of some sort where anyone who is actively on QOTO (and those who arent) can hang out in, to supplement the text medium.
That way when someone gets all pissy and mad at someone they can just pop on and handle itface to face, or atleast, voice-to-voice.. I feel like it might create an interesting and improved dynamic maybe.
@realcaseyrollins I havent decided on the specific technology to fullfill that, but mumble was suggested a few days ago.
@freemo It's nice and works fairly well.
You could install jitsi
@igel jitsi and mumble are the two most suggested ones so far.
Jitsi works in browsers and is easy to use. Mumble is for boomers
@igel I havent tried either. working in browsers sounds like a nice plus :)
I will probably try both and pick whichever offers the most features
I call it unix
LInux is Not Uni X seems to be the origin of the name.
Although it is a nice thing to have even a somewhat broken descendant of the great One, running in billions of pocket computers.
Total. World. Domination.
Done it, credit the forefathers at Bell Labs.
@igel
Yes, apologies for that -- it was a Formatting question.
HAD to be just right. So, the need to revise.
I am like that, sorry.
Thanks, Igel. I normally prepare a formatted post and send it to myself as a DM -- just to see that it is perfect.
Revisions are not seen, at all.
When done, delete/redraft for the last time and change Privacy, to Public. Send.
An INTJ thing. 😜
In live chats like this it is hard to even keep up with the flow and type without errors. So plainly understandable.
Jitsi and mumble would both allow people to keep an anonymous identity. No one would be required to join either.
@arteteco enabled Talk on the Nextcloud server not long ago, and it works well for voice, video, and text chat. One could create a "general" conversation, add every user on the server, and start an ongoing call to which anyone could connect as they pleased.
I feel like this should be initiated by an admin - although I could in theory follow this recipe myself, I don't think many users would look favourably on a possibly high-noise chat to which some random account added them.
@khird Oh yes, we could use Talk too, I'm not too familiar with it so I haven't thought about it
@freemo To weight in on the whole mumble vs jitsi debate I think you describe two slightly different goals, one better realized with every of those pieces of software.
Mumble is better for permanently hanging out. You can sit there muted and just wait for someone to join. There is a non-intrusive chat which can even be bridged to matrix (although the existing bridges would require some work to provide a nice user experience :/). The sound quality is extremely nice, the desktop client is lightweight, and even when many people attempt to talk at once the quality remains reasonable.
For a quick talk to resolve a discussion face-to-face jitsi is better, because you can actually see the faces (quite important when you want to empathize better). You can also create private rooms very easily and there is good encryption, so anything you say remains private (as long as no other participant records of course). Mumble has private rooms, but they are not intuitive at all. However, sound and video sometimes get desynchronised and laggy, especially under firefox (it's optimized for chrome) or in longer conversations with many people.
@freemo
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That way when someone gets all pissy and mad at someone they can just pop on and handle itface to face, or atleast, voice-to-voice..
Good job on convincing me to not be there, lol... 😜
Although it would be good for site Staff. On that I would participate.
@rgx Dont worry I am likely to do both markdown and a voip in the same update if we do the voip at all
@rgx by the way I normally hate voice conversations even phone calls. so not sure how popular the idea will be.. But it will be a good test to see if we can get a tigher community.
@freemo in the open, as a staff person? Don't count me in.
@rgx Just like all the other services run your participation, as well as everyone elses, is optional.
@freemo Please think -- HARD -- about Security issues.
We had state agents posting in our instance, and we did piss some off.
@rgx How do you propose we handle it better. We cant detect it unless someone notices it first. On QOTO that is soemtimes hard with so many people.
@freemo That conversation should be in private, staff forum. We can do it there, here is not a good idea.
@rgx I'm all ears anytime, any place.
@freemo Yes, I know that. Just keep tongue in check sometimes...
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@freemo I'm not sure this feature creep is beneficial to the network, I wouldn't want to overload us.
In case we want to proceed, Matrix is surely the protocol closest to the intentions and the spirit of the instance (federated, s2s, FOSS etc). It should support voice with jitsi. If we want to go the easy way sure, a discord server is just a 5 minutes work.
@freemo a mumble server maybe?
@jotbe maybe ill have to try that and jitsi
@freemo Like a #Mumble?