🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

Well I know where I am going shopping when i finally snap...

@Surasanji Yea we had that in america before even obamacare. Though it wasnt the "same level" as everyone else it was actually really good quality in that regard.

@SecondJon Depends how you price it. If you price it in terms of cost to achieve a high quality produ ct then im dirt cheap. If you price it in terms of hours im expensive :)

@SecondJon Just hire me. I may work "off shore* but i always keep a schedule in sync with my job even if it means working at night and sleeping in the day.

I'm not cheap though :)

lol poor billy

@nerthos
I mostly agree. But I should point out my top concern is not the well being of people with addiction. It is the well being of the whole of society. Whatever can reduce the greatest amount of suffering amongst all. I would even say i prioritize sober people over those addicted in my intentions (even if you may not agree my policies would have that effect).

@somem

@nerthos
While i do disagree with your ideas and find them "idiotic" as far as ideas go. I would not apply that to you as a person. I think its fine to insult an idea but not a person. So while i may understand why he feels that way about you given the absurdity of your views I do not approve of him attacking you personally. For whatever that is worth.

@somem

@noyoushutthefuckupdad I have a lot of those things automated. Though in many cases I built the hardware and software myself. The issue is mostly open-source vs closed. Though i suppose it depends on your concerns.

@somem
One suggestion. It is usually convention when replying to have the person your replying to as the first person you tag in the message and all other "observers" at the end of the message. This tends to make it more clear who it is you are addressing in threads.

@nerthos

@ayy
Im not saying all drugs are harmless mind you. I'm just saying any sweeping statement you can make about "drugs" is going to be false out of the gate since it is such an arbitrary distinction.

I would agree a majority of things we think of when we talk about illegal drugs obviously cant be consumed unchecked, then again you shouldnt induldge in anything unchecked. But many of those drugs also have little to no addictive qualities and some have very few negative side effects too. we simply need to be specific in these discussions to be useful.

@miya @nerthos

@ayy
While that is true of some drugs, particularly those that are associated with clear dysfunction (like heroin), there is no basis to say that for some others. In fact the very idea of what is a drug or what is not is generally a completely arbitrary distinction. Drugs, like food occur in nature, are consumed by humans, have been part of our evolution for time immemorial,and impact our brain chemistry.

the vast majority of things we call "drugs" are no more harmful than a multivitamin. In fact there are many multivitamins that have and do cause significaintly more harm than things we call drugs. For example if you were to compare vitamin K to say weed, it is clear vitamin K has taken far more lives than weed.

@miya @nerthos

Because doggos.

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@miya
I had the flu once and was hallucinating. I remember I could swear i had really really tiny hands for a hot minute there.

But yea, every thought you have, ever activity you do, every food you eat, literally every time a neuron fires you are altering your brain chemistry. through some means. Experiencing anything is an alteration in your brain chemistry.

@ayy @nerthos

@ayy He may have ruined his life and he may have wasted more time than he needed by getting stoned. I know people like that too. I also know people who did the exact same thing by watching tv all day, playing video games, or any number of things.

I wouldnt say it was accurate that the smoking of weed is what ruined his life anymore so than anything else youd use to take up your idle time when you should be off being productive.

@miya @nerthos

@nerthos
enjoying yourself through a cup of tea, weed, or a tv show, or anything external to yourself is not "reliance".. reliance implies you NEED it to enjoy yourself. No one NEEDS weed to enjoy themselves. It is just one way in which they do. Remove the obvious mistake of "reliance" from your statement and it no longer makes any sense.

@ayy @miya

@miya
Exactly, which is my thinking. Lets see where there is harm and do what we can to eliminate it. To think the mere existance of the substance is the full picture is very naive.

@ayy @nerthos

@nerthos
For some it is a vice, and yes you should try to overcome it if it is. then again I dont know anyone without some vices so you must not think very many people are equals then if anyone with a vice isnt.

With that said most people who smoke weed dont have any "vices". They smoke for the same reason someone might drink a cup of tea, or watch an entertaining TV show. specifically, because it is an enjoyable relaxing expiernce with no negative side effects.

@miya @ayy

@nerthos
I'll take a person on a moderate quantity of weed over a person on a moderate quantity of alcohol anyday. Even if they arent being reckless the second your more than a drink or two in you become stupid, unable to process information well, pretty much all the typical symptoms of intentional poisoning without much good to it.

Weed, most of all that happens is people laugh a little easier. Might start day dreaming a bit at worst.

though i suspect you may not have spent much time in such a place. Its usually filled with old ladies, kids, and everything in between. For the most part youd be unable to tell drugs were involved in any sense of the word.

@ayy

@nerthos
I think it speaks more to your own short coming that you need the people around you to behave like you in order for you to enjoy yourself.

Take the netherlands as an example. Weed is legal and plenty of coffee shops where people smoke. Yet the vast majority of dutch people do not smoke weed and generally see it as something to be avoided. But they arent in any way bothered by such stores. They pass them, never give it a second thought and are generally uneffected by the people who go there. Most of the time they will have some friends who smoke, some who dont and no one gives a shit because it really doent matter or have much impact on them.

There is a reason i have so much respect for the dutch. I think this exemplifies maturity.

@ayy @miya

@nerthos
I dont think your view of "flawless" is an objective view of flawless however. anytime someone wants to force others to behave the same as them I am always concerned.

@miya @ayy