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@hakui
I should point out when I use "hacker" i sometimes mean whitehat or black hat. I use the "hat" part to make the distinction (as most of the programming public does). I myself am a hacker.
@njoseph

@hakui
i am not sugesting you need to use the same language as the public. I am only saying it is silly and pointless to try to convince the public to use the same language as you.

@njoseph

@hakui
Interesting. I can say this (as someone who grew up in the 80's). Despite what a dozen or so people originally called themselves the first time the **public** was introduced to the word hacker it was used to mean "to break into computers". So in terms of the **public** use of the word it was, in fact, negative from the get go. I'm not sure what a few dozen people used it as first should be the dictated usage for the public.
@njoseph

@njoseph To be fair hacker was first used in a negative sense (as in, to break into a system). Some people adopted it in a positive way, and thats great, but I see no need to change the word. Worrying about euphemisms is such a waste of time IMO.

If it is public money, it should be public code as well. I support this call for more public code under a Free Software licence: publiccode.eu/

@TheGnuMaster No worries, the blame could just as easily be on me for not being more clear in my opinions.

@TheGnuMaster I never meant to say any system can or should work. What I meant is that if the populace doesnt have good morals and good reasoning skills then every system WILL fail.

That said if the populace has those qualities than any system which would fail despite those qualities (such as a monarchy) would be overturned by the people and a system which does work would be chosen.

In the end we have never had a nation on earth where its people were of high enough character to ever create an ideal system...

@szbalint

::/plug::

though in all seriousness not too many. If you find a tag that is active and science baased let me know

@Christian On the plus side the autopsy should be lots of fun if they bring a black light :)

@masklayer

@Christian @masklayer Well I know its listed officially as toxic and that you are advised to wear goggles and gloves when using it. But i also know that they spray it on crime scenes without much concern for killing everyone in the room, so it cant be THAT toxic.

I'd says straight up drinking it though is like a 7 or 8 or something (number pulled out of my ass). Its toxic and drinking is a large quantity so at the very least will fuck you up somehow.

@Christian This is probably a reaction of hydrogen peroxide and luminol. I do it all the time, gives a beautiful blue glow. You can also replace the H2O2 with copper.

@thegibson I ran it on linux before, wasnt too tricky as I recall.

lewd joke... 

Person: "Would you like a cocktail?"

Me: "I didnt even know cocks could have a tail, but no, I like my cock just the way it is."

@celtic_tiger I was referring to the presidential election not the primaries.Typically primaries see a very different (and fewer) of the population voting. A small group of hard core extremists can and often do get all sorts of scum as candidates, just look at hillary for another example of that.

@celtic_tiger From the actions I've seen of her there isnt even an iota of truth in that assertion. While its pointless to argue over what pile of shit smells worse I will just leave it at the fact that they are both horrific, who is the worst and who is the second worse is hardly important.

Blame the media all you want but it sounds pretty silly saying someone will be a good leader and yet looses to someone no one wanted to vote for in the first place.

Literally a well dressed monkey could have easily beat him.

@xrevan86 Yes I agree, a group with a lot of mallice will always form governments that reflect that. Such a system, just as the people themselves, self-perpetuate such a system as well.

But you simply cant correctly change a government for the better if the people arent already better themselves.

The government is designed to change slowly. As such the morality of the government will always lag behind its people. The people need to change first always.

@TheGnuMaster Democracy, of any kind, is only good as its people. I dont look to better forms of government to fix the problem, it wont, I put my energy and hope in changing people to have the intellectual and moral integrity to make the system work, any system.

@celtic_tiger Its a laugh at the fact that the only reason Trump won is because he was the second worst candidate for president we have ever had, the first one being Hillary.

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