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@mngrif All I know is when i use solvents on plastics it usually makes them cloudy...

@antifarben Well to be fair I've never actually unloaded chairs that stacked in that fashion. It looks like it may have been built for that purpose in mind.

@cwt A lot of people in the thread seem to know the acronym pemdas itself. The problem is the acronym leaves out some subtle and important details but these people are applying it without understanding that, all they know is the acronym. Thats the problem. If you follow PEMDAS naively you'd get 1 which is wrong.

@sozialwelten I'm not sure if people got dumber or not. All I know is that they are currently dumb, and i suspect they probably have been for a while now.

This pretty much sums up america (and other english speaking nations) in this thread about a 3rd grade math problem for a few reasons:

1) It just shows how grossly unintelligent most people, especially americans, are that they arent even educated at a 3rd grade level or in the most basic of math.

2) It shows Dunning-kruger effect that has infected americans. Despite most people clearly not having a clue as to how to do this basic math problem these people getting the problem wrong are claiming to be math experts. Sorry but among those who studied math NO ONE would disagree on this problem

3) It shows how rampant lying is a huge issue in english speaking countries particularly when it comes to "being right" about pretty much everything. People claimed to have advanced math degrees and yet clearly couldnt even do a third grade math problem. I have never met ANYONE with such a degree who would disagree on this problem, no way.

Do americans and british even realize just how pathetic they look anymore, seriously?

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@gingerrroot I have the opposite problem. I always forget to image my captions.

Perfect explanation as to why the term mansplaining needs to die. Aside from its obvious sexist connotations it simply sends the wrong message about women:

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DEET is neither a hydrocarbon, nor is it "long-chain". Though as a strong solvent it probably is pretty decent at getting dirt off at least.

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@mngrif Never tried it but I can tell you why it probably isnt bullshit. DEET is a strong solvent and will dissolve plastic with ease. IT is also a plasticizer and will permanently soften plastic. This means two things

1) if your headlight cover is plastic like most modern ones are it will take off a layer of the plastic. This may produce a shine (though it may just ruin it and make it fofggy looking, not sure)

2) if your headlights are made of glass it will dissolve everything off the surface and leave the glass. This might give it a nice shine.

@mngrif Anytime. Also if you ever like an emoji you see from another server or have a png of one you want me to add just let me know.Its trivial and i can add any that you want.

@mngrif Go look at your OP in this thread again... emoji is now there.

@Liberty4Masses Well now that we agree that the actual argument i made earlier as to when to build a road or not is trivial to do the math on, just calculate ROI lets address your other points.

I agree government is pretty damn inefficient. Current governments are shit and they would waste a ton of money. Particularly if they do the work themselves rather than privatise it. No argument there.

There is a BIG difference between who will do the work efficiently (the answer is not government, agreed) vs who will PAY for it. Thats what we are really talking about. Whi will be willing to put up the money they have control over to fix problems that are needed and benefit everyone. Government sorta sucks at that too, but the general population sucks at that aspect way WAY more.

After all I can easily look at the road network in a country where the government pays for it in taxes and contrast that to areas where governments pay little or nothing on roads (or where no governments exist at all). I can then compare these to and ask myself, which has the economy that thrives the most from their road system. That answer will always be the one built by governments right now.

That doesnt mean there isnt a problem. They will waste money, and probably spend more to build it. There are ways we can address this and should. But its clear when we look at the no-government option it doesnt solve the underlying problem either. So we need something that is different than either of these.

@Liberty4Masses As we know with statistics there is a threshold to how accurate data needs to be before we can make actionable results on it. We can test for that and know ahead of time if the data is "Accurate enough". The fact that after data is collected it begins to lose accuracy is true, but also irrelevant because what matters is "did it lose ENOUGH accuracy to no longer be useful". As i said we can test where that point is. So it is largely irrelevant point and doesnt negate the fact that we can still draw conclusions from it.

@Liberty4Masses Oh of course, yes please feel free to keep it private if you wish. No worries.

Mises Hayek proved nothing of the sort. They and others have shown plenty of flaws in keysian economics of course. But thats not what we are discussing. We arent discussing economic models or if they are possible. We are talking about looking at a simple investment and determining if it makes us money or not. THAT is trivial and easy to do. Any philosophy about economic models is completely unrelated to what that process would be. In fact for EVERY economic model we have determining your ROI is essentially the same exact process.

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