@mngrif Yea this is a small town out here for the area. I'm surrounded bt farm animals :)
Today I just got finished with my first Newspaper interview in the Netherlands. It was a personal interview as they wanted to know about me and my personal life. It was a lot of fun and im looking forward to seeing the article in the paper in a few weeks.
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@freemo We definitely agree on this point. Back to our original statement, politicians in general are worthy of contempt by virtue of contributing to the destructive system of government.
To relate to what you're saying, Obama shouldn't be celebrated for having stabbed us with a smaller knife than Trump is now stabbing us with. It's not a "good job, we barely felt that paring knife in our kidneys" but should rather be "we won't stand for being stabbed"
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@StreetsOfSpokane I agree 100%
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@StreetsOfSpokane to be fair thats kinda true. Obama was very charismatic, which basically meant he could get away with murder and people gave it way more slack than they probably should have.
Trump however every time he opens his mouth he sounds like he is having a stroke. So natually he fails at being evil because people are easily wooed by his words, if anything he has the opposite effect.
Also even if you dont look at his words he is still an asshole, so yea...
@feld By vote you mean against Trump I suspect? (yea i dont like him, I just hope the democrats actually have someone decent this time, neither side has for a while).
But yea I agree, the pain is still far far too near.
@MariandreaPF Looks epic! Thanks for sharing.
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@StreetsOfSpokane Well that was my point. If we compare the worst of all the things each has done, Obama has done worse.
However if we compare cumulatively everything each president has done and weight it that way instead... well then it becomes a far more nuanced argument but I wouldnt be driven to disagree with you if you were to assert that Obama was marginally more moral than trump by that measure.
Regardless no matter how we stack the scales of morality here we are still arguing the morality of a murderer vs the morality of exhibiting national pride, or of being misogynistic, or whichever evil quality of trump you wish to add to the list.
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@StreetsOfSpokane Also to be clear I do not subscribe to the "vote for the lesser evil" mentality.
The fact is all three of our last presidents all commits atrocities. They all represent the worse sort of political evils we have seen in America.
We are basically arguing who is marginally less evil than the other. While I am more than happy to have that discussion lets step back for a minute and admit that we are well into the weeds and past the most important part in that statement.
We shouldnt be praising when a marginally less evil democrat comes along just because we see the alternative as a little more evil. In the end there should have been outrage from both political sidesint he street over bush, over obama, and over trump. But thats not what we see. We see the democrats being silent when their own leaders are murdering and in an uproar with a republican president is out there spouting vitrol. then the exact opposite happens on the republican side.
This pattern of behavior is what destroys the USA, its what perpetuates the downward spiral, and its far more the issue than anything trump or Obama or Bush or anyone has done individually.
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Alright, well lets consider that.
What one thing has he said or done of all the things he has said or done (A quote, something he signed, an announcement he made, whatever), that you feel is worse than murdering a US citizen without trial or due process?
You mentioned "stoking the fires of nationalism". But that isnt a single act. Which action did .he take to stoke those fires that you feel is an example of some action worse than murder?
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No worries. It was admittedly an easy mistake to make. Just a bit of missed nuance.
Overall your intention was to engage respectfully, you were good! Much appreciated the maturity.
PArtly, but i agree a politician isnt likely to do a very good job fixing anything. We do admittedly have pretty shitty politicians in the USA.
That was my whole point with single-payer. It doesnt work (that is just the government throwing money at something). As I said, just as a pure free market doesnt work.
You can have neither of these in several potential systems.
@Klaatu Making a statement about commonality with someone of a seperate race IS racial diversity. It is just racial diversity by demonstrating it, rather than preaching it.
Thats the whole point. Rogers was VERY careful not to make people feel attacked. he didnt preach to them. He demonstrated how people should be treated and let that be his example.
This was very much about racial diversity he just demonstrated that the right way, without using identity politics, that is all.
@werekat Doesnt surprise me at all. Any healthcare system that is based on extremist ideologies like 100% pure free market or single-payer universal healthcare is bound to be shitty. We see it in the USA, England, and apparently Sweden. I can say as a Dutch person it is also true of the Dutch system.
Sadly people are just really shitty at come up with good systems that dont behave at one end of an extreme or another.
I've been to many a Psychiatrist. Not one has ever suggested to me a drug.
The reason its so common is because if someone is severe enough to seek mental health there is a good chance they need something more than just talk to cope with their symptoms.
Its exactly the same as the following silly argument: "Isn't it weird that most people who go to see a surgeon wind up getting one of the 20 surgeries that doctor performs".. Well duh, thats probably why most people went to see said doctor, to get treatment, so lets not be surprised that they... get treatment.
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My stance on various issues:
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Welfare: Yes, no one should starve
UBI: No, use welfare
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