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@realcaseyrollins

Are you serious man, really? In the press conference she clarified it.. he specifically said "deport american citizens" and referenced the specific talk Trump said what he said that you think is ambiguous. The press release secretary quite clearly states that yes, trump is looking to find a way to deport citizens and that he has been talking about it and planning it for a while in multiple ways.

ARe you seriously this desperate to play this mental gymnastics.. at this point you just sound like a tool when it has been so clearly reiterated in multiple conversations in multiple ways... why are you so desperate to believe something different than what has been explicitly stated, and clarified in multiple ways to you by him and his press secretary?

@lnxw37a2

@ryan

Ok, whether its A or B I dont care... If my years of respect gives now eight to when a tipping point is reached that I will recognize it, and that respect has no value, then I dont really care.

You have to be a raving lunatic to look at whats going on in america under trump and thing it is remotely normal, acceptable, or not treason.

@realcaseyrollins

ICE was trying to stop a rulling that may have found the individual innocent and prevented them from having any course of action to deport him. They are trying to deport people without due process, his memo explicitly revealed they are trying to get people deported by avoiding court cases, meaning based on simply accusations without any due process.

In this case Eduardo Flores-Ruiz was accused of domestic abuse, without any court ruling if the accusation was valid or not. ICE wanted to deport him without due process, the judge insisted he had a right to a hearing to determine if he was guilty before using as a grounds for a deportation. Therefore she was arrested so ICE could deport the man without his constitutionally protected due process.

@lnxw37a2

@ryan

I have no idea who you are or if I should even care.. but ok.

@realcaseyrollins @lnxw37a2

@realcaseyrollins

You can no longer be a Trump supporter and just have a difference of opinion. It has now crossed the line that if you support trump, you support treason and the destruction of the constitution on every level.

Trump needs to be executed for treason along with every single person who has actively supported him. Maga has not surpassed the point of a political party and is now a terrorist organization as far as I'm concerned.

And I say that as probably one of the most centrist people on this whole damn platform.

@lnxw37a2

@realcaseyrollins

> When did this happen?

Just last month. Judge Hannah Dugan was arrested on Trump's order because ICE wanted to block her rulling and hide in her court room and arrest the immigrant when he comes in for his hearing to determine the legality of his case (what we call due process). Despite the judge specifically ordering it illegal to deport him without due process the FBI arrested the judge and then deported the individual.

> Presuming those people don't have lawful deportation orders, he should stop doing that

Yes he should stop doing this, he clearly has no intention of stopping. He even sent out a memo telling ICE to ignore the need for search warrants or due process.

Thats the problem, even when the supreme court tells him to stop, he wont... thats the point.

@lnxw37a2

@realcaseyrollins

He has already done it for people with legal residence despite being determined to be very clearly illegal by judges, he even then arrested the judge who tried to stop him from doing this illegal shit... Literally he has already executed every step of it right up to the point where he deports a literal citizen (deporting a legal resident without due process and the judge standing int he way should be a pretty big clue he is and will do it).
@lnxw37a2

@realcaseyrollins

Dude you are acting like a fool for the first time, ever... These are thigns he is actively doing.. he has arrested a judge already for enforcing her ruling, he has deported people against judges rullings he cant, without due process, people here under the protection of the law.

These arent random off the cuff things he is saying, it is a pattern of action that he has clearly followed through on every step of the way.

@lnxw37a2

@realcaseyrollins

Need a remind you this is the same man who thinks its illegal to ignore a court order explicitly saying a man cant be deported, deporting them anyway, then the supreme court reaffirms again it was illegal and he needs to bring him back, he ignores the court order again, and then claims he wants to operate within the law... yes his figment of his imagination as to what the law is, not the actual reality of the law.

@lnxw37a2

@realcaseyrollins

So wait, you dont think that represnets him saying loudly and clearly he plans to deport usa citizens?

You think because he said he is looking into a way to do it legally that he will follow the law? despite the fact that he hasnt listened to a single rulling any court has placed on him of any kind?

Seriously, I never once lost respect for you for leaning republican... but right now, right now was the first time I did.

@lnxw37a2

@realcaseyrollins

Nothing personal, but are you kidding me. He has said it multiple times while being videos, and it was reiterated at a press conference explicitly.

Here is where trump **first** said he is looking to deport american citizens:

https://youtu.be/vGKQh_Kj0DQ?si=_lEhTpHy3YNHLfJI&t=52

Here is the follow up where immediately following the above statement at the official press conference they are **explicitly** asked if he plans to deport USA citizens and they answer in no uncertain times they are trying their darndest to find a way to deport USA citizens:

https://youtu.be/Cs32oUJPXWU?si=17Oy3-O8dzmclRpK

How did you miss such a HUGE thing said in an official and direct way....

@Clambino

@realcaseyrollins How ya figure? Trump explicitly is screaming at the top of his lungs about deporting citizens.. how is it not his fault

@realcaseyrollins

Not deport me, not deport **legal** immigrants, and not making me fear for my freedom would be a nice start.

Be sure not to miss it. This is a once in a night time thing!

Your brain is programmed and evolved to think all this ::waves generally at everything:: is perfectly normal. It doesnt matter what this is. When the black plague was rampant and death and poverty were everywhere, it felt just as normal to those people as a world where we went from the first plane to a landing on the moon in just a few decades.

If you can pull yourself out of that head space for even a second the view is quite interesting from this side of the line.

@stux

Back in your day? You mean like a week ago? :)

@realcaseyrollins

Most people do. And while I dont think the christian approach of "follow this book" is any better (though manyc hristian principles are good ones), I think the idea of basing ethics on "what is normal" is probably one of the biggest flaws of humanity.

@realcaseyrollins

I do agree on both points again.

Out of curiosity, does "modern social standards" matter in determining what is right or not for you though? For me it doesnt, though it will effect how i judge a persons mental state.

@realcaseyrollins

1) I totally agree with your messager here. 2) out of curiosity do you also feel its inappropriate for black people to use that word in a similar setting and context?