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Do you see it possible to improve people more than just tech?

Many coding geniuses, except maybe Linus Torvalds himself, seem to be happier with programs than people.

What is your experience of programmers and tech folk in general (without any hate here in mind other than "what about improving the people skills" a bit more)


people more than tech?
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"Democracy" is a word but maybe not reality... My Definition and Disclaimer... 

The word "Democracy" I'm not sure actually exists in practice. It seems more a word than something actually done (being represented properly by elected oblivious stay-in-lane representatives I wouldn't trust with conversation let alone represent me).

❓ Is "Democracy" just the many also oblivious, even the cleverest who might also be "hoping" for logic and "balance" to come to the surface when it doesn't?

❓ Is "Democracy" actually trying to achieve, through millions of unique voices, what is impossible to do the on a large scale as representation and care?,

❓ Is "Democracy" the 3rd meaning in my dictionary so the people have the 1st meaning in mind while 2nd and 3rd meaning is what state / government uses all-the-while ?

Noun: democracy

🙍 1. A political system ruled by the people, either directly or through elected representatives
:google: 2. The doctrine that the numerical majority of an organized group can make decisions binding on the whole group
:google: 3. A state under the direct or representative rule of its people

[WordWeb.info]

⬆️ The :google: = Government (which is slowly becoming the same thing!)

Just saying words might not actually work as a system but exist in the dictionary). Words can mean something but doesn't mean they need to work in reality.
Also words can be taken over to mean whatever people mean today so it's own context of "today" anyway it seems it's far fetched and perhaps just another words used by politics to make people think they are in a Democracy (again words twisted by those in it toward the largely uneducated public).

Democracy in it's best case, as I see it, needs smaller pools of people and more dynamic style of "system" because of the unique differences of individuals themselves and their locality.

Democracy is not a one-size fits all system called "Democracy".

Part of it are good like "good communication" and other components but MILLIONS REPRESENTED BY A FEW PEOPLE ? NO.

Elected or not by today's standards of politics, Democracy seems like a label used but if you talk to the average persons they might not even know what it is...

"Democracy" as a word - My Definition as a Disclaimer...

Democracy is supposed to be dynamic. . . 

(Although disclaimer, I'm not sure if Democracy even exists (is it just many voices hoping for logic to come to surface?), just in it's own context anyway, it needs to be a dynamic style / improving hopefully).

Words have 2...3...4... meanings
Dictionary / Language is therefore by nature misleading...

Collectivism (as example)

= 1. Soviet communism
OR
= 2. A political theory that the people should own the means of production

So if I say I don't like "Collectivism"
❓ Do I dislike 1? Soviet communism

or

❓ Do I dislike 2? A political theory that the people should own the means of production

❓ or dislike BOTH?

=
Multi-meaning words are therefore by nature / full of ...

growth = success? (Mastodon critique) 

growth = success (usually)

however growth in just numbers without mindset growth is dangerous.

for example is growing and so are the :youtube: youtube links which is Google.

So YouTube Google :google: on Mastodon or linking to making a kind of Advert Farm for them here - which is not the aim but often comes first with users and is not acknowledged or curbed enough (or at all) by admins and users to do different or try something else (filtered links or firefox plugin etc)

Those who might have come here for similar reasons (non adverts) put links with adverts! Crazy!

So we grow the SAME cancers here / allow links tracking users or just link to non-Mastodon and expect that to work?

A least people could filter their links to videos like this

invidious.jing.rocks/watch?v=L

or video channels linked like this:

invidious.jing.rocks/channel/U

☯️ Karma - "What goes around comes around.,."

Ask Government THIS!

Targets are for 2050 ⚠️ ❓
But that year is at least 6 or 7 governments away!

Does government have conservation or demand reduction targets for this year? And next 5 years?

(otherwise projections are meaningless and legally NOT binding!)

A binary choice of either big or big .

(Two choices, same choice or result)

@stormbringer
This post was a bit better but jumping all over the place is a sure sign of not keeping to topic

Not good enough for me to do what you do - treating people so is great but if you think that's going to do it or enough regardless or money - it's not.
A lot of ethical things don't cost money but more incremented time and other accumulated gesture (even token gesture accumulate / open up things)

And if your family isn't doing the homework (talking between them / training how to talk / therapy and listening etc) then you're raising a family that is also not good enough by these more-human measurements. People commonly empty all their life into people who just do the same while everything goes downhill... not all your fault but money only isn't the answer either.

Let's see what your next reply is - considering these things.

@stormbringer Your talking out of context suddenly or jumping to bigger without the details with this one.

@stormbringer
I did ask what you would rate yourself as in the ethical things listed....

If you're not interested in answering the question more directly just say or don't reply.

You started good - let's see if you can do a better reply 📉

I think has his ways however missed a big trick: using the fans more directly and even talking to them directly as it's a human movement (not just a 'computer programming' solution lol)

So without knocking him or it all:

it's basically human thing (human behaviour or alignment of principles) as the onion skin layer over the computer thing...

People are at the heart of everything so just 'talking to computers' or talking via text and computers seems to make that as a limitation very clear and even compound it!

Sorry !

@stormbringer
So sssuming that's perfectly true...

What of the ethical things of giving back; decision making, do our homework on what's happening or what we use, listening, caring for others, protesting and doing something about something etc?

Do you think people have done well in that?...
(perhaps consider yourself in those departments because talking about others might be speculation or unspecific)...

An economy without true wellbeing and human welfare in mind? 

An economy without true well-being and human welfare in mind (more than profit) is a false economy for humans/

I personally assume humans want for more than just profit to the top people of work trees. Or maybe don't realise yet why money is not enough in the ethical and other areas of care...


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