HUMAN CHANGE = WORK TOGETHER ? @freeschool@qoto.org

@DarkOptimism 📚 #Book 🔈#Audio #Activism #Free #Education

Surviving the Future audiobook by Shaun Chamberlin [based on David Fleming's Lean Logic]

🔈 Just finished listening to the Surviving The Future audio 🔈

📚 Really good free audio book ⭐

https://www.darkoptimism.org/2022/11/18/surviving-the-future-audiobook/

You can buy the paperback and give back too to both authors!

Surviving the Future audiobook by Shaun Chamberlin [based on David Fleming's Lean Logic]

📻 Great radio feel audio with commentary by Jimmy Buff and Peter Buffet which confirms what I think we all can do ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO FOCUS ON... They both cover your / their / David's perspectives very nicely as audio and reflecting on it...

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TALKING AS THE FUTURE?
(VOICE AUDIO?)
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Therefore a voice tool like https://vocaroo.com/ is what I see as that potential within a trusted circle (which could be screened by 1 or two main trusted people (like yourself Shaun) and then all others much safer from that. We have to give it a go...

I know you're doing that in a scholarly type setting but for those 'lesser' or 'anon' we need simple #Jitsi and in to talking, no zoom or complicated zoom or googlisms - As you see on Fediverse many people don't answer people without ID-ing them or without having credentials - your word is often not enough or it's a cut-off point and up-front ultimatum / fascism almost for those dying to help without being ID'd or in forever data loops..

CC other interesting people / similar: @markhburton

I welcome anything else to do / consume well as a practical and educational consumption - towards life-changingness as we essentially want / need to find out...

And I'll keep working on perhaps finding people that suit me and perhaps add in similar audio field...

i would be happy to add something for you via:

https://vocaroo.com/

⌚ Time and Trust is lost in Technology ⏳

And at the same time we are also not doing the people / friendship work.
🧑‍🤝‍🧑 🔄 🧑‍🤝‍🧑 ❤️

Think of being 15 playing PlayStation and again with PC 💻

Isn't it really similar / the same even if it became more accepted professionally.

🤖 🎰 🔄 🤖 🎰 💰

Good fun, occasionally something - but not actually advancing people or yourself with others?.

Tech as new PlayStation ? i would admit it after all these years.
1 player game or lonely multi-player with other loners.

Emptying time more than filling people with something more connected / real? And if it doesn't exist, we must make it.

So not everything is quite written off as #gaming but similar dynamics and even excuses not to interact with *people* and potential things that get undermined or deleted eventually (yes we can use tech but we have all the basic tech already for people to interact - not need for any more, just maintain #email, #jitsi, #bigblubutton, #torrent, #p2p, #Mastodon, #XMPP, #FTP (not even nextcloud / open cloud etc as FTP is native to os and strong for small or even large groups, Debian still uses it for example) and a few other solid protocols

ALL else is a bit of a time dump if people can't themselves communicate - so this is what needs work - even if you build the best sports car, people are still the weak link and wreck everything unknowingly - they themselves are a wreck due to history and mal-practice of contact between people.

Seems to just apply a kind of therapy as the basic work is the best way via Jitsi and go "at the speed of trust".

Building Friendship [Trust] vs. Playing PlayStation [Spending Time solo]

CC : Amiya Behera #FBPPR @amiya_rbehera
from recent conversation about trust in tech, blockchain etc

As it's acronym suggest AND I see it aligned towards a more-human-improvement and personalisation for a server instance rather than more-isolated general blogging you see on the timeline here and most everywhere.

The "work" being the users and server more personally with each other improving what they already do and towards their personal aims...

Questioning Others to Teach Ourselves ?

or

🚫uestioning 🚫thers to Learn 🚫urselves ?

It's seems you're almost alone in this wørld - never heading towards #togetherness ?

ø = A set containing no elements.
(or nearly empty as it is here as less connected blogging)

#QOTO is spear-headed by @ freemo (deliberately spaced as I've already tried and said I won't bother him).., He or this place is not actively aiming or interested to develop to it's potential form and full growth as I see the acronym being already from it's name. But hey that's labels for you, it can be nothing orientated to encourage being more personal blogging between us... like Weaving... 〰️〰️〰️〰️〰️

Because, as I see it IT'S THE RIGHT HUMAN RESPONSE TO THE WORLD AND EACH OTHER:

The human response is to what is being cut out of our lives... this human interaction and personal learning is exactly stopping us getting together and learning how to do things better (I'm not saying it will be perfect from start and you should expect alternative ways to be so).

So it's not just job or "project" based learning (paid incentivisation from who knows who backing things) unless the project is human interaction and practice itself as a more giving open independent form).

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PASSIONS AND PEOPLE
( WITHOUT PROFIT AS MAIN REASON FOR CONTACT )
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My attempts have failed. Not even getting backing to do some talking regularly as a semi-official QOTO thing ( helps to have it as an official test to encourage people to join and ensure it's going somewhere, being judged by all and not a scam ultimately - and instead building and backing ourselves with our #passions ) .

So not testing things is also a sign of the same lacking of exploration / experimenting / allowing population to make things their own and build themselves with some help / backing...

It seems the acronym is aligned to performing as it's name suggests (a big reason why I joined) but instead I'm also on a 'general social' as you might be reading this.

So it's acronym is lacking as I see it here towards my more-human personal-level improvements rather than the usual general blogging which is what I see here... Trump War Elon YAWN - when are we going to improve ourselves as dedicated to all that crap (you can still have it but do the personal work and help others also grow) ?

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MORE RISK / TESTING
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Some place that takes users by the horns and runs with them / tests their ideas almost blind is very much needed. Suggests where...

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SO WHY ARE YOU STILL HERE ?
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I would be off this server already BUT #MASTODON DOESN'T EVEN EXPORT DATA TO SOMETHING READABLE OFFLINE LIKE TWITTER give as output exactly the same as online... IT'S A JSON FILE with mastodon: Mastodon ...
L L

so I'm stuck here unless I leave my data in a format that doesn't already link even the pictures and text together offline.
Sad.

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SUMMARY
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So seems QØTØ is not actively doing and not aiming for more after all the chats I've had.

Yet another occasionally two-way text service and social general- with "once I had the great idea" for an acronym as it's URL.

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SO WHY MENTION IT SO MUCH DOOD?
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I believe passionately that the human effort is to do with what #capitalism realizes works to cut ✂️ out for profit and what we need to put back in which is the focus on human interactions and micro transactions learning about each person instead of almost avoiding exchange as text-based system rather than personalisation and heading towards our dreams (under the QOTO banner for example like a school of learning - @freeschool )

Audio chat #Jitsi with safety / anonymity in mind is for the way for me.

Something more of a human improvement in all "sectors" of our personal #projects and #dreams is what I seek - NOT just more tech development and near-0 human emotional / rational improvement... as the acronym suggests?

Questioning Others to Teach Ourselves ?

or...

🚫uestioning 🚫thers to Learn 🚫urselves ?

It's seems you're alone in this wørld!

ø = A set containing no elements.

#peace #project #world #friendship #dream #together
#centralisation #world #love

Voice Messages through Browser ONLY

Send me a voice message!

https://vocaroo.com/

🎤 Sending voice messages is easier and more direct than ever.

A different #Privacy without BigTech 3rd party orientation and can be self-installed like #Jitsi / #SimpleX etc

☑️ Without recording app
☑️ No BigTech in the middle saving files. You can delete yourself.
☑️ All PC / mobiles 🖥️ 📱

☑️ Link is given to send to anyone (via Mastodon for example).

📥 Privately sending this link via DM on Fediverse is more private or less dependent in some way...

Extra security if pasted via PrivNote first here; https://privnote.com/

Emailing the link is possible but being #Gmail usually or #BigTech #Email is means BIG 3rd party not so ideal - instead send link on Mastodon etc or on https://privnote.com note (which self-destructs) and then send that link via Mastodon etc!

Use private DM here (not public unless you're addressing everyone on your own!)

☑️ EASY!
You have a mic 🎤 + browser - Just to go this website or set it up for yourself

https://vocaroo.com/

☑️ lick 🔴 + Send Link via DM

#OpenSource #Code
Code is open-source (if anyone wants to look) :
https://github.com/vocaroo.

Even better than #Jitsi or #Jami in the way you can record it whenever (without needing to make a meeting time) and just keep Mastodon open to past link when you feel like recording it...

https://vocaroo.com/

#humour on what #Rumi as the #quote below says:

"Somewhere beyond right and wrong, there is a garden. I will meet you there.
- Rumi

The quote is probably more accurately about right and wrong and meeting in beautiful place together, sharing "as the middle perspective" or entirely just "beautiful place" as the view for things without right and wrong...

...but I go for my own interpretation that we need to do the middle ground or other perspective AND go to the garden to meet in person also !

TLDR; Going to any garden of thought might be easy but practicing talking longer together is the art we also need do practice of online beforehand also!

Of course online more privately too not #Zoom #Skype etc but #Jitsi and #Jami,
#WebRTC or #SIP protocals.

⚠️ 💥 Can't just do short text talking !! 💥 ⚠️
That always = war / shallow depth / misunderstanding and often lots of it which is longer than clearer long text or safe audio chats !

When Rumi said "I will meet you there" he also could have said "meet me online before so we know which garden we will be in!... so we don't get lost in the wrong one for hours and hours calling each other when we get there !"

Links to existing chat space and #projects that you can help me recreate but without:

❌ they use Zoom so I want to switch that to #Jitsi

➡️ Post-Doom, No Gloom
(https://postdoom.com/connect/) calls,

➡️ Safe Circle small-group calls (https://livingresilience.net/safecircle/).

➡️ Deep Adaptation events (https://www.deepadaptation.info/events/),

Not sure about forum but maybe as FAQ:

➡️ CollapseSupport community on Reddit
➡️ DarkOptimism.org.

All welcoming, and
--------- BUT USE----------
❌ they use Zoom so I want to switch that to #Jitsi

❌ they're not on Mastodon [yet] so want to switch that also

Feel isolated / Need to talk? [ #NewProjects similar

#CollapseClub
#DoomsteadDiner
#PostDoom
#SafeCircle
#DeepAdaptation
#RealTalk

More of us working on the social side of things. This is what this post is about.

Can you help?

If "Systems" are a way of doing things, then "Social" could be about bringing people together as it's main purpose.

That's the TLDR ! Please comment on what you think so far!

And if you get confused with the rest of the micro-points then come back to top to remind yourself!

If "Systems" ultimately come with the "missing parts" as the Humans themselves, then all our interaction / exploration is VITAL for our own health / development within that shell...

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MORE INTERACTION? ORCHESTRATED HARMONY?
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We (humans) need more human interaction and half *orchestrated* stuff basically because alone we're severely limited and unimaginative as you might agree. Our work and family are often not the right places to train all this and comes back to risking our shelter and income that way, so places of less extremes in potential outcomes.

Born in Capitalism I think is the perfect answer from being very limited and narrow minded (lacking experience) and that's FROM not being together (people from cosmopolitan areas might be less racist naturally but not talking to anyone that your own you're really limited to experience of XYZ culture).

Surprisingly team work can happen INSTANTLY and we do find out place or get amazed by suggestions to do it more than our blind spots we had FOR YEARS!. Saves us time I feel. Small teams are also fine so no need assume only big or only small. Jump around!

(AGAIN) FEEDBACK FROM READING TO HERE IS OK OR KEEP TAB OPEN !
My love goes out to whatever we do already - not trying to change you to breaking levels! Let's just do it together and take on any paranoia etc at the same time... because we're also losing time while some shysty people are developing bad work and making that systematic.

More about what I think about things and how they could be done is below.

TLDR: Instances could be better populated or just encourage much more of a frequency for actions such as specific real-talk by it's users for XYZ pictures to be painted / presented at the end, and that sometimes we have to create or use from our own repertoire. "Fake it until you make it" also isn't bad here because "you make it from whoever shows up" so it could be a 'drawing' workshop that tries a bit of painting if someone else turns up or the people take it turns to bring for THEMSELVES what they do or what they think of your workshop from a different viewpoint/skill/discipline!
All is related or can be relative my Einstein friend.
All are unique too which I believe balances the non-Einstein-looking people.

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SO WHAT'S THE REST OF THIS? (POINTS YOU CAN SKIP ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU LIKE)
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Each paragraph is a main point and key lines with █ at the start.

█ You could say that Social IS doing that togetherness right now.

It might be that I think it's not doing that 'enough' and want to show it here HOW IT ISN'T to see and compare how you think about it (you think individuals are doing enough in life?). Maybe Systems shouldn't be that type of assistance to users, like a more caring parental type of encouragement for it's population (by those who want, not everyone wants that's ok). But I'm hoping there is always a way for those up for more of a chat or personal improvement as a more regular / constructive thing but we just don't know how or where to begin and there is no button for "I'M UP FOR A CHAT RIGHT NOW, WHO ELSE IS THERE?" to just jump right into a chat - example #Jitsi is instant:
https://jitsi.riot.im/freetalk (no signup, no account, no-install, all browsers, light-weight JUST THIS IS SURE PART OF WHAT WE DO!

█ So I'd like you to balance me in my perceptions, because largely it seems humans are missing / not showing up or not shown better ways themselves (even #RMS or other experts can be misunderstood let alone individuals - even if not everyone wants to be understood I think it's very human to get that out from ourselves and feel moer free / understood / truthful).

We can assume many simply wouldn't want to participate and "that's just life" but I'm even happy for others to use us as another kind of TV shit-show / freakshow as it's a lot more nearer to what they participate in (again more tempted whereas mainstream they are too far away). So chances are still better and people might send a comment / audio / video as helping the educational-entertainment rather than entertainment-education). If I'm correct then I can see what we can all do from what we do already and it's a overall big relief either way if people say more clearly "the why/why not for this and that".

█ Maybe in this text "I see the 'how' in chatting and you don't see it" OR "you see what I'm totally missing or reality". Like you'll come back with "people don't have time" and I'll show you people have a lot of time for BS as long as it pushes the right buttons (which we could do instead). If you can show there isn't better way almost lol... which is hard to do! If there isn't any potential and this is the best we're going to get from life I think I'd like more test than opinions of how motivated you are. If one of you decent admin who know what money is as a farce, then we can really open up talking properly and crack some eggs!

With your logical input and soem "Aha" on my side I'm happy to entertain stopping but there isn't anyone who doesn't like talking or seeing others talk. Thanks for any comments!

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SO WHAT IS THE REAL LEVEL OF 'HUMANITY' AT THE MOMENT, WHO KNOWS?
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Right now we probably can say Humanity is not really at the level I want because they are simply no present or having a way (me asking people to enter jitsi chat is not the best way you'll agree and needs a lot of faith to jump in like that, so we need something better). And without grouping the whole world in to over generalising it as 'not present enough to gauge', I am seeing the same at micro or macro level so the systematic sides to that are worth blaming AND ALSO FIXING - it's not just about putting on the individual to say things say "it's up to you to fix things without my help" (lol this is possibly the worst phrase and death to humanity!)

Another phrase is "you have to be independent" when that doesn't exist (especially with system that ties everyone in even if it looks unrelated/disconnected).
Both those phrases don't exist in world fucking up things LARGE! And basically (and simply) we need more mass to achieve, accumulate, increment and not much else perhaps. Not all or nothing either - just regularly more little things ! (being present or adding more and 'the worldly' things. And all will come together in similar chained/better-connected way).

It's maybe this part of mass you don't understand or feel you have to go "all in" or nothing works. And again that's also blamed on the system or systematic patterns for training us it's on or off or we can't do it ourself until it's made very professionally. People doing something towards the aim for togetherness is in between of on and off state- call it learning or exploration / analogue / dialogue. Perhaps a type of 'human algorithm' comes to mind where Twitter and commercial services solved that continuation of activity by recommending who is in our area and has similar like in our posts or the description boxes entered in the Bio.

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OK DUDE WHAT'S THE PART WHERE I SAY "WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?... AND I'LL DO IT!"
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EMOTIONAL INTELLIGENCE
+ CONSCIOUS PARTICIPATION (LIKE COMMUNITY WORK YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO)
+ BEING AWARE OF BAD SYSTEMS AND ENTERTAINING EXITING THE HORRIBLE "GIFT" SHOP OF LIFE
+ DOING LESS BAD WAYS PERSONALLY IN YOUR LIFE / HELPING OTHERS

= HELPS MY LIFE LIKE THE UBUNTU WAY OF LIFE (WHERE YOUR LIFE ACTIVITY AFFECTS MINE) AND INCREASES ALL OUR CHANCES. Get how that works (and how it doesn't work in my life without you?)

Right now we have a "free blog" type system which even without having adverts or commercial mining is great but still isn't enough to grow or solve life. Just more one-way bloggers! THANK YOU FOR THE FREE LUNCH BUT the world isn't solved from that.
Doesn't help the "Give people better work to do" side of things to increment better communications. We can hobble along giving free like that and not need to do things personally together in life towards one big Ubuntu family, but we are all getting hammered out here AND WE NEED TO GLUE ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING together as value from "the people" because it is all we have and need to do as "best we can do" and accept it's simply not Capitalism or trojan horse quality.
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IMPROVING THE "HUMAN ALGORITHM" (HOW WE DO THINGS OR MORE WITH HUMANS LESS MACHINES)
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For good reasons not 'those things' is good while mixing up ways as our own algorithms (human algo's). So "we the people do need 'something more' and 'it will look shoddy at first with trial and error but we will find great friends to enjoy and are upgrading our own ability as we go - upgrading ourself through others (?!) in the effort towards many MANY MORE things in life (too many to deny- but call it 'everything', call it love perhaps). So "Freedom away from things that cheat us" as a general goal but allowing emotional intelligence to come to the foreground and as the main practice and work (call it therapy or the caring capitalism skipped totally for generations) and even helping each other solve other things - although I think arguable everything is solved, once the start and end of all communications (emotions) is out there.

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PROCESS THE EMOTIONS AS KEY TO EVERYTHING ELSE?
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When we are happy at the start and end of it all (and finding out why for things) then all the magic is done as "happy humans" do things fast and time flies. While playing our favourite music track on repeat and seeing donations come in to our favourite things that capitalism won't pay for directly, means we can really go further than capitalism and help it all get done without big commercial payment and #rugpulls.

Process emotions as you go and you could possibly solve or improve / unleash all the ways /motivation to solving the rest of the problems (mostly it's the motivation or method discovery because "I don't have time" or "you can't move away from Google" is usually a lie and mostly about the method and knowing even the limitation and accepting it more gladly to work towards it as the "justice" (personal and to others not getting mined by your communications). And so we reduce the fluctuating noise signals that come up in communications with more calm loving people doing better constantly with better people or at least in 'therapy mode' accepting people are not perfect but there in the circle to help each other do better, not kill each other in chat.

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BETTER ATTENTION TOWARDS HUMAN QUALITY INSIDE MORE THAN MACHINES EXTERNALLY
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Admins and programmers are largely victorious in mastering everything - we don't actually need more - just maintenance perhaps of things being the main thing which we see people instance doing - but now we have largely have go to the stage creating new things between each other that actually filling the human way or doing "what is not doing the human parts". Doing more programming and machine work with "human improvement work" perhaps is just allowing capitalism to take your work and plug it into their evil machine. We rather need human work of personal improvement as more of the "untouchable" change and mind power and not external machine-orientated control gates or code that forces things on people (other than voice or video chats and texting what do we need? Just people organising that and we're done).

What I see fit or better or even personally need is much more socially embracing than that for those that want and not just "alone together" like every other system almost.

Am I wrong in that last line of paragraphs above?

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QUESTIONS SHOWING BETTER HOW HARD IT IS TO MEASURE THINGS AND POTENTIAL FOR CHANGING:
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█ Scared people - How many people are scared that stops interaction? (it's hard to measure but surely exists and though I respect it, it's much like people scared to learn about life itself or go to school together. It's unavoidable and avoidable only at *all* our cost/detriment as we become non-players in life, feeding commercial consumption and interaction.

█ Learning / therapy - how many want to do that?
Going to back to a kind of social school where freedom and expression IS appreciated- rather than the "do as your told" style of places or banning people. What we need is more of a progressive accumulation of 'something' as a goal, training people as we go, where usually *we change* what is typically called "work" as "make money" and FORGETTING about individuals / treating them as disposable.

█ How much is me thinking there more potential when there isn't?
This what I want to find out and ask for your input... I think it can work even if you're different - let's say you might not believe in loving / accepting all people in this way... Is that the end of the story? IS THIS is all part of life and finding a way itself (your view on accepting people / self-love itself?).

█ Being each others Wonderwall as the fun in life ?
We might agree the current "System" by state doesn't serve us this love or wonder / trains us badly and is largely missing many things. And I compare all that to the social where we are also not aiming for better perhaps and could be....
"Because just maybe... you're going to be the one that saves me"
(Wonderwall by Oasis) https://invidious.fdn.fr/search?q=oasis+%E2%80%93+wonderwall
Lyrics - https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/oasis/wonderwall.html

█ How much do people want to help each other or causes?
Different levels of social or anonymous but just not "not to play at all" levels as default encouragement. YES I can message someone but there isn't the justice of reply or incentive of mutually solving anything clearly which is like the glue below us (in solidarity or whatever) - so fear or looking at appearances takes over...
As example try messaging a group on Fediverse, you hardly get a reply, nobody is there to reply! And then people are afraid to debate or take feedback that way... it's just all or nothing or one-way profiles (even by things claiming to help people which maybe it is in other ways).

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I NEED A SYSTEM THAT BRINGS OUT BEST IN ME AND IMPROVES THE WORST
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"The System" and the users could help interpret me better but currently it's more cold-functional than aiming for warmth and proving I'm a good person and multiply what good efforts I can do for others. Giving energy even for free I accept need management but often it can SIMPLY BE: DRAW US A PICTURE AND SEND IT and then people manage the work and pick what suits. Like a light-hearted competition to achieve the best between us while paying kudos (like #8bit anims and retro-video people do).

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HELP PEOPLE TEST (THEMSELVES) AMONGST OTHERS REGULARLY
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Largely people are expected to do the human parts on their own... which is the problem, but also the potential I see. So the "If I were the admin" then really mingling with people and see what they want and serving them the power to do it / test it is what will either grow people or help see "that's not it, I tried it, back to the drawing board"

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ORCHESTRATION NEEDED
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Even though there might be a large user base, it's largely un-orchestrated and could be for those who are able. And then to let those with less time or less ability to then come along more casually to something better organised - since some people can do it often or even non-stop and then that encourages everyone. If everyone doesn't start something or shy away because it looks bad or doesn't exist, then it only compounds that problem of not testing it at the least.

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IF IT'S JUST ME (TO START WITH) THEN AT LEAST WE CAN TEST THAT PART OUT NOW
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If I'm the "archetype" here (someone with energy and time at whatever level) then it's this solving of all personal things that we must do together that *enhances* all other things (and we have enough users to do that).
I'm sure this is just not my imagination though nobody is taught to sit and listen in order to sort it all out right? We are compartmentalised and think that works? NOOOor
In our imagination there are more ways of doing more together, and measurably this can tells us what works more and helps us get better at working in more ways! It's like schools that did things so rigidly it cuts out whole different ways of doing things.

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Money can't buy this cooperation.
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Other than compartmentalise and buy each other through a complex Capitalist system - surely we can do better than letting them siphon and tax our energy, time, money
Some chat sites do this well with "random" button or could be "random with these keywords". Dating sites also for example do it well (but that's also about sex so not as healthy but at least they get what they both want right? Which is what the exploration with people in general can do - not just always about sex).

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ALMOST ASK "WHAT'S THE WORST WAY AND WORST OUTCOME and do you get to similar conclusion to bind together as I do ?
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Humans not helping each other more personally basically is the isolation we complain about (in everything, you see it on social all the time).

While I understand people don't want the cruel "till the end" type of working it all out. That is exactly what is needed!

Aesthetics and ignoring the underlying problems (including us being more calmer and finding solutions amongst ourselves) is THE WAY FORWARD!

FOR ME PERSON #Money is literally devaluing people and at the same time doesn't help as it's 'defunding' people using debt material added to a system dilute it all, made from the very Banks themselves (shops that sell debt as the foundation for all life(!) and reasons for any unhealthiness / numerical cancer transferred to reality / lack of caring and less emotions for each other as I'm sure they don't care for people just money!).

Jami = better Skype and Zoom ...

🗣️ 🔈 🎵 📹 Audio / Video etc ✅ Communication

Follow @Jami

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INSTANT / DOWNLOAD / USE:
➡️ https://jami.net/download-jami-windows/
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All platforms:

Add nickname + start/connect
(very quick instant P2P)
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☑️ Free, open-source, secure,
☑️ End-to-end encrypted,
☑️ Voice, video and text communication platform... P2P

💻 Not relying on a central server 💻
🤫 Power of privacy 🤫
👤 Freedom in the hands of users (P2P) 👤

Jami by Savoir-faire Linux from Canada respecting user freedom and privacy, is mainly for point-to-point communication and SIP-based messaging, and has now become a GNU project.

https://jami.net/
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#Jami #GNURing, #SFLphone #SIP #SimpleX #P2P #Jitsi #Alternative ...
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💣 Replacement for... 💣 #Skype 💥 #WhatsApp 💥 #Zoom 💥 #Discord 💥 #Facebook 💥 #Messenger 💥

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Features / more details:
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✔️ It supports real-time text messaging, audio/video calls,
✔️ file sharing
✔️ screen sharing,
✔️ recording/sending of audio/video content
✔️ SIP phoning

✔️ NO personal information to create an account
✔️ NO phone numbers and email addresses.
✔️ Local Network only? YES! Doesn’t even require an Internet connection. If people are on the same local network, they don’t need to be connected to the Internet to send messages to each other.
✔️ Use your computer as a phone to send messages while still confining your communications to within the local network.

https://libredirect.github.io/
also similar / same = https://codeberg.org/explore/repos?q=alternative-frontends&topic=1

= list of sites or their code to get no adverts and no bad code while surfing those commercial $ites !

Both lists show what is possible to either:

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... Some popular examples ...
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#Twitter posts → #Nitter ➡️ https://status.d420.de/

Zoom → #Jitsi ➡️ https://jitsi.riot.im/ (Zoom-like Audio / Video Calls)

#Instagram → #Proxigram ➡️ https://proxigram.adminforge.de/

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The rest of the list to find....
or I will add one day...
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#YouTube → #Invidious, #Piped, Piped-Material, #PokeTube, #CloudTube, #Tubo, #FreeTube, #Yattee, #FreeTube #PWA
YouTube Music → #Beatbump, #Hyperpipe
#Bluesky → #skyview
#Reddit → #Redlib, #Teddit
#Tumblr → #Priviblur
#Twitch → #SafeTwitch, #Twineo
#TikTok → #ProxiTok
#Instagram → #Proxigram
#IMDb → #LibreMDb
#Bilibili → #MikuInvidious
#Pixiv → #PixivFE
#Fandom → #BreezeWiki
#Imgur → #Rimgo
#Pinterest → #Binternet
#SoundCloud → #Tubo
#Bandcamp → #Tent
# Tekstowo → #TekstoLibre
# Genius → #Dumb, #Intellectual
#Medium → #Scribe, #LibMedium
#Quora → #Quetre
#GitHub → #Gothub
#GitLab → #Laboratory
#Stack O#verflow → #AnonymousOverflow
#Reuters → #Neuters
#Snopes → #Suds
#Urban Dictionary → #Rural Dictionary
#Goodreads → #BiblioReads
#Wolfram Alpha → #WolfreeAlpha
#Instructables → #Indestructables, #Destructables
#Wikipedia → #Wikiless
#Wayback Machine → #Wayback Classic
#Search → #SearXNG, #SearX, #Whoogle, #LibreX, #4get
#Translate → #SimplyTranslate, #Mozhi, L#ibreTranslate
#Google #Maps → #OpenStreetMap
#GoogleMeet → #Jitsi https://jitsi.riot.im/
#Send Files → #Send
#Paste Text → #privatebin

Find lots of people who self-installed, sometimes by surfing the hashtags and scrolling a bit !

#Jitsi is like #Zoom calls but in browser and for freedoms - Try it!

https://jitsi.riot.im/

No software / No Acc login! Instant!
= No hassle!!

Jitsi chat! = #Free #Alternatives

#Audio #Video #Privacy
#OpenSource #WebRTC

🗣️ 🔈 Jami = better "Skype and Zoom" ?...

All platforms
https://jami.net/download-jami-windows/

Add any ID to start/connect (very quick P2P)

☑️ Free, open-source, secure,
☑️ End-to-end encrypted,
☑️ Voice, video and text communication platform... P2P

💻 Not relying on a central server 💻
🤫 Power of privacy 🤫
👤 Freedom in the hands of users (P2P) 👤

Jami by Savoir-faire Linux from Canada respecting user freedom and privacy, is mainly for point-to-point communication and SIP-based messaging, and has now become a GNU project.

https://jami.net/

#Jami #GNURing, #SFLphone #SIP #SimpleX #P2P #Jitsi ...

💣 Replace... 💣 #Skype 💥 #WhatsApp 💥 #Zoom 💥 #Discord 💥 #Facebook 💥 #Messenger 💥

✅ Communication

✔️ It supports real-time text messaging, audio/video calls,
✔️ file sharing
✔️ screen sharing,
✔️ recording/sending of audio/video content
✔️ SIP phoning

✔️ NO personal information to create an account
✔️ NO phone numbers and email addresses.
✔️ Local Network only? YES! Doesn’t even require an Internet connection. If people are on the same local network, they don’t need to be connected to the Internet to send messages to each other.
✔️ Use your computer as a phone to send messages while still confining your communications to within the local network.

#Jitsi Meet News Reminder:
Jitsi Chat (Audio / Video) now has Breakout rooms !

Test here (or change the end part of link to any chatroom name!)
https://meet.jit.si/chataboutit

Zoom had MAJOR advantage in this for ages to allow small groups to branch off and come back.

For those that have done T-Group meetings or anything with 10+ people, a breakout room is for groups to go off and then come back after specific smaller chat circles or just more manageable smaller sharing circles and sharing experience.
Groups can be recalled into main room where host speaks again to everyone before maybe the next round...
Anyway also check out T-Group meetings https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-group_(social_psychology) and happy to say more.

Jitsi Meet + T-Group meetings
= Social Power / Power of Minds / Whatever you want