IMPROVE PEOPLE _NOT JUST TECH_ @freeschool@qoto.org

@hazlin Well said - just confirms I've found treasure here...

Usually it's the 'let's do it for the others that helps them get together with a few people to lead - but I'd be happy to assume it wouldn't be possible and nobody would show up - so it would be just us and work from that... something much more controllable and quality too.

Wonderfully you captured what it is about truth "It does not create friendships." so I suggest we knowingly proceed to any business we can do (stuff we can be busy-with and increment) to explore something together like talking on the regular once a week... ?

Treasure both needs finding and occasionally polishing when it comes to us as a person. (so both is the reply to your training me to be treasure and courage all round is needed to polish what is essentially ourselves as "another" part of God or Cosmos, almost like fragments we are putting back together)

@hazlin I think it's hard for their level of experience, testing- the same as ours- where we might find it individually hard to team up with anyone and stick to it. Fediverse is better on the virtual social side but really crack nuts (breaking each other too somewhat and helping ourselves rebuild) is not an additional stress many want to take on or add to life.

I focus this paragraph on me you and say gabe + Fediverse as we're able and the inexperiences rest (or just those you can't be bold enough to communicate or find a way) will join in their own time (for now). And so that's my proposition that we crack nuts and you may choose from which.

If I were to ask first then I would ask "What is it you would like to see more of in the world" and my answer (as example) is more real talk together as a kind of training circle, lightly moderated by us 3 (taking turns and having our own meta chats about who joined and if it's serving them in the Jitsi chats well and basically creating somewhat "the good work" for us maybe once a week...

Something that you have wanted to solve or sort out - try name it or the words around.... Thanks

It's not just about knowledge.
It's about experience.

i.e. Was learning enjoyable?
i.e. Is knowledge worth it when it's crap to learn?
i.e. Does bad experience meanwhile make the knowledge temporary like temporary muscle-memory or short-term learning? (cramming for exams, fire and forget exhaustion-based "training", constant-stress 'learning')

@hazlin
So it's a yes to Christians not doing enough or perhaps even for the active it would be more fair to say:

"not going far enough"
"not going the distance / completing on know problems"
" Not working on it daily "

Capitalism is based around it's basic form:

private ownership of capital

BUT evolved (changed) into something else... now what this "something else" is can remain flexible but will including the meaning of Capitalism changing to mean today a people of a certain command and control mentality (hierarchy / government gate formation ( supervisor of the supervisors style formation )

So Capitalism is far from just trade (which us amazingly wrong) and more about centralising power, extraction. profiteering, weakening others, more politics (which we can say in shortest that "we should rule them otherwise we lose our power / job of abusing those that pay us - wantingly or not)

The main gist was "people follow Capitalism more than their own religion"

And if you talk about anti-religious things (according to their logic) they are still not looking to making better ways than things like:

- renting themselves, expecting children to sell themselves in future

- doing things they really don't like to "live" or dis-respectful / without God or Good-will in their work

- don't tell children how banks and money scams / devalues them and so become rather complicit themselves (the basis of all life is becoming debt or loans mathematically / incorrectly given out based on what banks do not have to give - they can give x2-x9 loans from only 1 amount of money which is like loans even though you don't have it - again immortal / financially incorrect)

- people respect or put money before Jesus (or whatever teachings from whatever religion)

- they never look to improve what is wrong end up following and only fuelling the wrong (even if it keeps them alive which sometimes should be not rated so highly since staying alive with the above is very wrong)
- etc

That's a bit more around the problems I mean... there are too many basically to be wrong to judge since it's measurable in answers and my own life's asking... every person I've known almost apart from "Hi, bye" relationships

oh yeah add to list:
- "Hi, bye" relationships that #Christians (or any modern ways listed in this post)
This is almost enforce by not giving + not MAKING time to listen and just closing doors to MY family (separate families and false sense of "mine" or "you stay over there where lines are drawn) when it should be more OUR family(s).

People have to see that others GIVE them relativity - which also works that they almost TAKE IT AWAY if they don't give (in a ecological or human sense that giving can make the world go around but GIVING WITH CAPITALISM is contrary to real giving and actually makes things worse since Capitalism really is about taking more than giving although you don't see where and how - it's pure extraction and stealing of people time and energy through things like banks and debt or a million other ways

- SO IF YOU CAN GIVE MORE AND MORE WITHOUT CAPITALISM THEN I GUARANTEE THE MEANING OF YOUR WORK IS BETTER KEPT / NOT CHEAPENED / NOT JUST FOR THE WAR-LIKE BUSINESS as described above.

NOT GIVING IS KIND OF LIKE
NOT GROWING... (as individual or humanity)

Each time people celebrate a factory or arms being bombed it's like going backwards in progress, in my mind.

Although trusting people is hard, just #bombing and #building is stupid / wasteful though I get the business model - yes very good and one day we are friends the next day you #steal or #blame something on someone as excuse / accusation and then we live off the #energy in guilt that you claim yours and #pipe it back to us only to do the circle-jerk again and call it a business / way of living for those that do the same in less forms of the same...

#War is good business

⬇️ 🇺🇸 🛫 👤 💣 ⬇️



⬇️ 🇺🇸💲🛢️ 🚚 ⬇️
🔥 🚬 🏭 🚛 🚗 ⛽

= #War is good business [Destroy and Rebuild Everything]

Frank Zappa is... ? #poll results
+ I recommend the film (2020) 🎞️ via torrent

#FrankZappa #Film
#Life #Documentary #Music #Rebel #Activist #Activism

⬇️ Poll results of approx. 50 people total voting altogether... ⬇️

1st poll
►14% Genius (everything)
►79% Hit and miss (but genius in the hits for me)
►0% Hit and miss (but the bad is worse than the good)
►7% Who is Frank Zappa? / DON'T KNOW HIM

2nd poll
►0% Genius (everything)
►67% Hit and miss (but genius in the hits for me)
►0% Hit and miss (but the bad is worse than the good)
►33% Who is Frank Zappa? / DON'T KNOW HIM

"Christians seem to be waiting until their death to be rescued from their sins."
- @hazlin

Post https://shortstacksran.ch/objects/86bbaccf-6e6a-4cf3-9d3c-cf586cd3f46b

MY COMMENT:
It's enough to say that I'm not in for people just waiting to the end to be judged and rather be judged now on what their actions NOW (including what they don't do).

What people don't do is a big difference and often hidden kind of looking at things- what are people not doing (at all or a lot of)....

So while extreme panic is too much and unneeded, one can become ignorant in a half-doing sort of way, almost pretending to do but never finishing the job until the end (the dirty part to finally cleaning things).

One might be good but never doing these 'same things' is an avoidance I'm seeing and irresponsible way like waiting for God to do something about it instead of thinking "we are a part of God (or part of Cosmos or whatever we have a power given to determine and do) and it os simply up to us to create or heal things after thinking about the basics. (for example, should we sell / rent our body despite a system setup to get food that way and all the while cheapens all actions and meaning while doing so not to mention diluting the money by putting more debt into the total pool of money) ⬅️ and too many more things you just have to put above priority occasionally even above 100% a food supply because all else is being lost in the hands of Capitalists or non-players / non-doers).

There's something about doing nothing that seems to be of regular flavour of Christianity I have called.:

➡️ "Capitalist-Christianity"... ⬅️

where 💰( 🧀 etc) overrides priority even more than ✝️

Let that be a first for the term in #Religion until I hear otherwise!

#CapitalistChristianity
= #Capitalism first then #Christianity maybe last and not daily

Might re-do this post but seems about right.... thoughts welcome...

@adiz @gabriel
If one relates and associates the definition of sin (or most parts of daily sin) as various learning curves and behaviours that need doing better, then mostly sin is also something that can be curved and * almost stopped * ...

BUT...

like my answer about "stopping" Capitalism it's not necessarily something to be stopped at all - more the focus is to ehad towards or more to become / be / do more often as the change AND encourage it.

If good people say nothing or do nothing - this is equally not good and is a kind of sin that puts others in a position that only they can since we are not helping them try find better ways (or believe in Capitalism for justice, for example, direct or indirectly consent / do nothing).

The way we use language for questions or language in general has it's many meanings so also flawed somewhat and to be accepted. How we phrase questions (or receive them) can be different but if we understand somewhat what we mean THEN we can curb it all towards something better (much like curbing from Sin to Good / Better occurrences).

So even my analysis here of "stopping" things might not being 100% as the right word to focus on or to say the intention to "stop" is too forceful AND WE NEED TO ALLOW FOR SIN as part of learning what sin is / it's inseparable) then sin or for example the act of stealing personally NEEDS TO BE HAPPEN in one's lifetime (say for all boys growing up as the more daring half of the human species) - we can't rob / stop them in the need to try various things and know the difference or remember what it feels like.

The experience of self-shame (after the adrenalin / "seeking action") and the reflection after is hat is needed to build character and healthy people.

It all accumulates to build character and learns to throw less stones or shout at someone (to know when it's needed to shout and when not! But not to say 'never shout' or let people walk over you all the time)

To allow things without punishment in healthy way can show understanding and see what happens... Punishment for sin can also be a sin on top of a sin (like a double sin sending someone to cold prison)
I think most would accept boys need to learn when growing up but really even older adults / old boys too with no healthy role models or real contact with men.

IF system and good people allow punishment and not understanding then what do we expect.

A healthier way than punishment is talking circles, talking to real people, other sinners even, resolving crimes (not just paying in time in jail), doing men's circles etc, explaining, saying sorry -

i.e. educate not execute
for first-time offenders or even 2nd / 3rd time offenders - because it's also society that is not doing or setting people in the right environment (Capitalism putting people in corners / ultimatums and then pointing the finger "aha you're the terrorist!... true we took all your land and don't want your culture around but it's you we are sure it's not us!".

Especially if not wilful or if offenders didn't damage much it's also the environment.

A men's circle is still better than being locked up and then released many years later with not much curbing about what happened and why. As the world gets worse too / is given less options to be different....

So... In summary:

Can't separate sin from other words like making mistakes, various experiences of learning, testing things, feeling one's limits etc... even lashing out due to oppressive system or human history / trauma we're going through... and yes even the really bad needs to be given chance and measured / assessment in healing and chances of understanding re-offending is not needed / there is another way.

Call it better teaching / better loving, circles of experiences... anything helps

Even if we have to make ourselves consistently on Fediverse via talks - all is needed for a better way.

SO THEN THE QUESTION

Who is really up for that as practice ourself and then inviting others to show up for audio talk / limited small circle ?

Anyone?

And @theorytoe ...
Yes, sometimes if "something significant were to happen" or until crisis yes, sometimes need that for change or people don't change until that bumps them.
They find it hard to move out earlier or can't but need some help / encouragement etc / maybe they financially worry etc...

So people can leave it late and find themselves doing something stupid / regular sin instead of taking the hit needed to correct things or end up making a sign via a sin instead of asking for help earlier.

Sin is usually a result something else is not working, like expression not being accepted at work or the system is oppressing people's time / body etc...

So until all that we talk about and allow yes it's easy to accept sin comes from that...

A PROJECT ?
I'm still trying to find people interested in doing the people work or just talking like this casually or in a circle / something focussed. Just investing in people because not doing "the people work" only gets us all going in circles as we need each other (no 2 ways around that unless you like Capitalism and even that the service is going downhill!)

So instead of letting people go disconnected and fuelling Capitalism, building / rebuilding ourselves as humanity itself is somewhat the super-hero circle we need.

All the history and changes are catching up so circles help balance that between us.
Are you in.... or....
@theorytoe /

Question goes for anyone also reading / watching...

@gabriel Based on the 1st answer with a bit more text added and a photo which shows how our friends increase our potential or how will works for us accumulatively ! ⬇️

(I'll delete the 1st reply soon, this is not that much different but needed to add that photo !) ⬇️

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If I could frame Capitalism as I see / interpret it correctly in this context, then "Capitalism" IS "us"...

(in super-short reductive way)

...then basically these words in the question are a representation of various knowledge or behaviour of people (combinations of willingness to change or not also a big part) - which surely if they change or head towards different things then Capitalism would surely change also.

"Stopping" Capitalism is going too far for me to say here, but really a "reduced" Capitalism will be seen simply by the WILLingness or the "search for other things" by our own individual and collective behaviours will be 100% for me pulling the slider back from where we came from as Capitalism in which it also is in many senses of that word too, again largely the will (to accept accept the way it is and not try different, to continue cheat each other because trust it too much investment etc etc).

So almost the same way we came, by this reductive ways individually or even general unsaid movement / collective, then it will step down like gears to slow the 'vehicle' and more importantly give chance for transition (for example let's say if everyone really believed in me, that believing in even 1 person, even if 75% right or worth believing in - actually works and in history has done. Could be bad example but I also put you or anyone at the front as basically we are all mostly aligned and just following consistently and trusting / testing wisely is almost "the only thing stopping us")

(without making this about me, even some Mastodon admins could apply this)

So then that's my answer as a kind of proof, that almost as reflection of the question is itself, we are part of "it", Capitalism, the trust, the behaviours, the testing each other... so answer or depends on you / "us" ⬅️

Even the damage done or reliance on Capitalism I consider still playable IF people want / will for it even by small increments (consider will ➡️ action working like compound interest and opens up even more mine-sweeper points to explore or action).

And so the justice is just "us" here as the being of many things and many senses of that word as Capitalism to thrwart or not (like thwarting or regrowing our mentality)... by doing these things less AND / or just doing "these things" more (such as try showing love, working on trust, giving out more freely without worry etc etc - again as super-short words but really measurably giving).

Even without too much focus on Capitalism that would work with a bit of incremented will power / time thrown into it.

(below is a reflection of my answer above...)

Usually I write about the negatives in order to learn positively but in this answer it's clear we are capitalism or many thinkings about our world as what it taught us or took advantage of (compounded and can be un-compunded in time) so this answer is the neutral type of thinking and the reality could turn around as fast as 'the will' to change happens realtime....

Like, right now. Someone reads this and believes... gets in contact and boom a site goes up and we start making the compound interest of that belief takes it's own course like snowball. That simply process of the will and will to follow ourselves leads to better ways (because you and I have the skill) and thus chances snowball too (even if not always doubling).

Right now by my own account (literally Fediverse account if you look back) people are not wanting, are still waiting for less painful way, or too tech aligned (=BigTech aligned) etc etc

So apart from a few here (if I may include you) it isn't right yet or needs a better group or face for the project or whatever aesthetics (imagine great people are still scared of their own shadow let alone "Capitalism" and I have the first-time responses from great people to show not just distrust but really waste of time thinking paranoid thoughts or assuming I'm A.I because of the way I right - so yeah they are not mature or passionate enough and have such bad excuses)

And the number of people gathering around this daily is near-0 as 2 way conversation (which is why I favour the talking part first to build / sort ourselves by whoever shows up).

That "till the end" type stuff hmm maybe exists but usually Tech and playing with computers gets the best of people and distracts from ACTUALLY changing people physically ourselves (voice and existing video material, our writing etc).

There are some individuals for sure doing part of "it" / change... but it's just extra Tech and not people orientated or not @the people work" then it fails by it's own measure.

If the will is there, let's say to trust me to see for 1 year what saving the world means (also because I have the most time than any other Fediverse person I know of) and if we make space to grow or create (not just wait), then suddenly the percentage for saving the world goes up suddenly like a "Back To The Future" scene where not fighting the bully = death of people in photo (them fading from his life's timeline) and they don't fulfil potentials, but if they do deal with the bully while accepting they are all different / even having to learn 'strange' and make friends, then suddenly by doing / trusting / (dare I say enjoying) then the "potentiometer" suddenly says it's by it's massively possible.

I might redraft this but happy you will get most of that Gabe.
(Sorry for delay. Have been having those super-hero scenes of life-changing thoughts these past few days...)

@gabriel About the #Question

If I could frame Capitalism as I see / interpret it correctly in this contact, then "Capitalism" IS "us" (in super-short reductive way) but basically it's a represent of various knowledge or behaviour of people (combinations including willingness to change or not) - which surely if they change or head towards different things then Capitalism would surely change (so stopping Capitalism is going too far for me to say, but really a "reduced" Capitalism or "search for other things" by our own individual and collective behaviours is 100% for me pulling the slider back from where we came, almost the same way we came and even by it's reductive ways stepping down like gears to slow the 'vehicle')

so then that's my answer almost as reflection that the question is itself is part of the answer or depends on "us" ⬅️ quite a lot (even the damage done or reliance on Capitalism I consider playable IF people wanted for it"

And so "us" here is the being of many things and many senses of that word to "thwart" Capitalism simply by doing it less or even just doing something else more without even too much focus on Capitalism (such as love, working on trust, giving etc again as super-short words).

And still in this neutral type of thinking the answer is for me clear - but could turn around as fast as 'the will' to change happens.... Right now by my own account (literally Fediverse account going back) people are not wanting, are still waiting for less painful way, or alignment etc etc isn't right and the number of people gathering around this is near-0 as 2 way "till the end" type being (though there are some individuals for sure doing it... and so if it's not just Tech (for example) and that will is their, say to trust me in favour of saving the world while having space to grow or create, then suddenly the percentage for saving the world goes up suddenly like a Back To The Future scene where not dealing with the bully = death / people in picture don't fulfil potential but if they do deal with the bully while accepting they are all different, then suddenly by doing / trusting / (dare I say enjoying) then the "potentiometer" suddenly says it's possible.

I might redraft this but happy you will get most of that Gabe.
(Sorry for delay. Have been having those super-hero scenes of life-changing thoughts these past few days...)

Maybe you're a kind of prostitute...?

Selling your body or mind to people can be seen as a kind of prostitute (no matter how you justify it for food or shelter).

Maybe it's ok to say purely as a reflection of the bad work others have done to deliberately get us to this point - where is mostly prostitute and less actually caring workplace...?

Maybe what level of #PROSTITUTE is better ? (similar to saying how really fulfilling and happy your are - or is it just something to get along in other ways?

#Prostitution or selling yourself 👙 to #Government who lets life go to waste ( even without saying anything about the #war / #wars ) and it doesn't care about rot... that's the thing.

You energy is in the wrong direction and no way to build a #family on top of that #relationship or even that " #business "... 👙

Working on the WWW together is one of the best answers to sell (to the wrong people) less often and build trust and something with love (what cares).

#Capitalists don't care. Don't ever forget that and think you can make better owners from them.

If you buy into a system (sell yourself or believe you need Big #Government) there is little getting out or achieving much - it's like signing you life away / selling your freedom and then making the rest "comfortable"...

...and I agree it might make sense short-term... until one day you realise even selling doesn't last you long as they want even more than the original price 📈🤑 while paying you less... 📉

#FuckAroundFindOut #Casino
#Bank #System #Government #Cheating

Sucks that we need "them" so much.

They can do anything... because we need them in so many ways...

#Music #Audio #Poll #FrankZappa

Previous polls
►14%Genius (everything)
►79%Hit and miss (but genius in the hits for me)
►0%Hit and miss (but the bad is worse than the good)
►7%Who is Frank Zappa? / DON'T KNOW HIM

►0%Genius (everything)
►67%Hit and miss (but genius in the hits for me)
►0%Hit and miss (but the bad is worse than the good)
►33%Who is Frank Zappa? / DON'T KNOW HIM

Frank Zappa is... ?

#Love for People

" Carlo was a young man who was exceptionally transparent. He really wanted to progress in loving his parents, God, his classmates, and those who loved him less. "

#Quote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_Acutis ✝️ Age 15 ✝️

#Love (through #Religion or not).

The healthy focus on each other should be the main thing always being transferred...

#Gameboy #LCD #Repair #Nintendo

Failed LCD screen repaired!

https://robprojects.github.io/gameboy/2020/01/09/gameboy1.html