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@Bill_Spunska Not sure what answer someone is looking for asking that. It's full of contrast but at the same time, these things are what makes the world go around fastest or most - even wherever you are or from.
That basis is what I'm looking at here despite perhaps looking at foot-soldiers of war in 1 pic.

Probably this is a job like any other, moving this from here to there in a chain and department as part of a "company" (it's the same word). All is for the bigger #company (country of your choice) inside economic / #war reasons (for everything, started that way and probably is continuing - didn't end at #WW2 that's for sure, just got a bit more civilised in Capitalism or similar variations).

Probably the only sense of power left for some people is at least have some effect on the other team / perceived attackers and do something where there is not much to do or "you're only fed if you fight".

What other solutions are there?

Take a minute to #answer that....

And then what other #solutions are there when you're opponent(s) doesn't allow you any solutions... and instead beats you down #economically / #socially in many other ways? Not easy.

Even banks with their pens as big as these might as well be in the same #economic picture, it's all war.

Might be different #physically overall for your picture but it's just #money at the end...

@violetmadder I guess anything in such mass of soil and people is going to exhaust any natural solution unless the living environment around is more than you are as people... grass, straw, leaves, manure etc, time... hard to add something that isn't already existing unless you create it from something else or DIY in some other way (which solves out-sourcing it as that is ALWAYS going to be PROFIT based_.

So I'd say don't try look so hard for commercial answers as a paradox in that sentence.

DIY / Link with those that have to make best decisions. Not always easy but getting out of city helps.

#Tea #Mugs " I once had a chat with John Leach about that and he commented that he'd got lots of mugs that had been given to him by potter friends. He reckoned that every morning's mug of tea was also like shaking hands with a friend. "

- Piers Cawley #Quote
@pdcawley
https://mendeddrum.org/@pdcawley/112706254515452222

@WiseWoman Seems like any financial cost will always be baked-in / paid from public pocket (to subsidise / to give grants / to invest in infrastructure etc) in whatever they want... It wouldn't even have to make sense.

They don't have to even ask us,

Giving them the taxes blind already doesn't help us steer where it might go. 🙈

A New Economy as "Ourselves" as the value and doing what we already do.

Linking more and more once it's clear to others.

LONGER VERSION

We can create our own more personalised economy based around what we already individually do more naturally, *much like animals* day or night doing their thing...
IF WE CAN QUANTIFY IT A BIT for others to see this will become much easier...

THEN LINK IT ALL TO OTHERS IN AS MANY WAYS POSSIBLE / DAISY CHAIN IT knowing it's never going to be 1:1 exchange or even needed (because we do it anyway and need something to do in life) but can start exploring and working a bit differently (already social media works for us somewhat just doing small work for each other as tests).

COPYING THE ANIMAL KINGDOM
The beaver gives to the squirrel and delivers it to the bird....hippo carries it... etc... all the animals have a role they like and get appreciated for... etc

TETRIS ALL THE CHAOS
Between ourselves we have and do a lot but need a bit of organising which I think we can simply let fall into place like Tetris pieces - and the more pieces are clear the more we can link what we are doing more naturally.

An economy based on our personalities and what we ❤️ to do and build already (a lot of us do it non-seriously but can come together a bit more). Legs, Arms, Brain... Everything. Together.

*Human* "dependencies"

" Corporations shouldn't define country limits or what is part of history. "

- Amandine B @eco_amandine

[MY NOTE: I might that add "whole countries" ARE corporations themselves as flags, so this is where I find problems start, although admit paradoxically we need to protect from others without trapping our own or treating them incorrectly as s objects / subjects / peasants for tax etc.

#Flags #Countries #Capitalism #Empire #History #Landgrabs #AttackDefend #Territory #TerritorialArmy #Tax

I don't fit very well in other people's boxes and packages. □ ⌂ ▲ ◊ ♥ ◊ ▲ ⌂ □

Other people's measurements and metrics are for their directives, objectives and rational.... They lose me almost completely as a result and should involve me and people, more willing to debate about what we are doing and who it's for...?

(ANSWER: for us and the next generations...?)

Ask yourself why you are doing what you do.

#Capitalism #Opinions #Metrics
#STEM #Boxes #Rational #TheMatrix #FreeAgents

Circular people stay victim (don't do something about it)

As you mechanise you take away humanity and their activities which become replaced, taken over and eventually not needed.
Some is natural but we need to balance this back.

Because Machines at some stage render the need for humans obsolete, which is a terrible world for humans. And if there are must pay their way then not having a job is as close to a death (hunger) sentence as you can get.

Machines at some stage render the need for human's obsolete.

And the opportunities and environments are as important as habitat where what we do and touch, what we are around is important.

Mechanise life and you take away humanity almost proportionately or as if the two were ties together...

#AI #Machines #Computing #ArtificialIntelligence #Automation #Jobs #Money #Landlords

*****Somehow***** to help improve THEM! ... getting somewhere personally is important as we've lost almost all other space for talking,,,
Like a #FreeSchool in real life, serious coffee, theatre or solid protest place...

If you want to enjoy things beyond the "Virtual Computing" and "Artificial Layers" presented to us by Governments - then we all better finding more time to working on "Real Humans" *****somehow***** and to help improve THEM!

#Human #Mentality vs.
#Computing #Mentality #AI #etc

@barefootstache (Forgot to say + updated)

There are many things that are not needing #AI, so reversing my phrase doesn't work for that...

AI Training is not needed in many things that are actually worth keeping simple / human / even away from over-thinking / being too efficient etc as we live and enjoy things beyond AI and it's owner's directives and rational.

The main way I meant it (and wasn't clear in my quick phrase either I admit) was that involving and giving people activity is the main thing, so rather than giving it to AI as a kind of job-cutting / replacement of human (which it will be and IF Governments don't let people live more freely and let the AI and computers do more of the work) and will be hard for people to pay Rent to LandLoard's (another subject) and pay the Inflation going up and up...

So not AI as some financial-based cost-cutting tool aimed at outcomes for machines to replace people are not good (however good they are or efficient, humans are the priority) but people doing stuff to keep busy or interested in something less digital (non-electric-based, in fields, nature or whatever) without getting interfered with by what is and will be probably Americanised Technology is worth it's own weight in gold.

Just because a bot can do better or cheaper is not the point (as well as the point of money devaluing over time and we all having less and less ways to pay landlords... or only specific gruelling ways since those are more likely going to be jobs AI haven't got to yet or cut out.)

I think definitely there are less jobs or less diversity (could say more specialism which cascades out but quickly back again once established and perfected) looking at whole of what computing has done and AI will do while we can't even pay for it!!)
< I would ideally like a referencing to cite this other than my own guesstimates looking at patterns of Tech growing out but quickly cutting back to bare minimums >

And frankly with AI, half or all of it it can go (!) based on my somewhat supposition that what we had before was plenty or just enough since we were NOT interested in making it easier for humans anyway <----- MASSIVE POINT

Things haven't really change much for the better (or again could stay at the OK-but-they-will not let-us -go-free stage) and fucking things faster what we don't always want fucking up.

And after a whole heap of sub-subsidised energy bills to fund it (without many of us knowing) + BIG expectations from people who fall for things like #NFT as thing in fashion not too long ago, it's basically just cheating people "AI" reselling and outsourcing it to sweatshops like all the other industries doing manual the work first so "oh wow it's so easier and helps me in my great bourgeois Western Country".

I have a feeling people are sold, like moths to light, in STEM, similar to seeing a new motorbike, new car or new tractor - "it's like magic daddy!", but then over time you realise how dirty it is for all the magic and parts to come alive on each start (petrol and parts) and all the shit to be mined and come together to decorate around the smelly metal parts all the time..
All tyres etc... Faaaaak).

Perhaps cars are nicer staying inside the a cheap plastic picture frame most of us had as a child

If I'm not wrong:
#Lamborghini Countach,
#Porsche 911/935
#Ferrari F40

and thankfully I have no dreams of owning and even driving for more than 30mins as it's liable to all CRASH. 🚗

Fediverse is being Google scraped and mined ⛏️

(and nobody is saying a word about it or did you see it mentioned somewhere before?)

What we had before was plenty since we were NOT interested in making it easier for humans anyway ^----- MASSIVE POINT #FreeSchool

"Free" is always a bit weird / strange in a sentence because it's unknown / unclear what it means, in what way free...?

It's our task to ask more about it or present it.

For example: #FreeSchool is a list of things: ⬇️
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=freeschool

#AI Training is not needed in many things that are actually worth keeping simple / human / even away from over-thinking / being too efficient etc as we live and enjoy things beyond AI and it's owners directives or rational.