LucifarGundam @lucifargundam@qoto.org

@icedquinn I don't even have you added on any other platform. How could we do the same thing if we don't even connect?

@icedquinn
You keep saying such things and everyone keeps saying "here I am" yet here you are.

@freeschool
It seems like you keep going into a recursive loop of saying anyone who conducts business is contributing to the extortion depletion of resources and should be accountable. That STEM is bad and inhuman because it doesn't implement societal concerns into research and projects.

If that is the case, I do sympathize with your ideals and do have some small merit of alignment with an it- but largely disagree.

But that's ok. It's fine to differ on important topics- and can lead to possibly fruitful takeaways. The important concern would be to uphold mutual respect and appropriate consideration for each side of the healthy discussion.

That being said, I agree many corporations are naturally selfish and possibly destructive- especially narrow-minded individuals who seek only personal profit at every step. However, business aspects like global trade and industrialization do not explicitly lead to evil or black-hearted nature of people- nor destruction of natural resources.

Anyone can start their own STEM program and have it funded however they wish and uphold whatever projects they want in their program. You can start a STEM program in your garage focused on fixing societal issues for all anyone cares. How you would go about organizing and planning such is beyond me and I would be interested to hear how _you_ would think that would go. Maybe start by calling it STEMS? Science technology engineering mathematics for Society?

Again, I don't like what happens at the top- but that doesn't mean I will burn the whole tower down. I might just try to make changes from wherever I stand at that point in time.

Without mankind's efforts to make progress with intellectual and material concepts that would be deemed science thousands of years later- we would not have made it this far into this path of evolution past being cavemen. We learned how to make fire- thousands of years later, we throw fire at each other in the form of bombs and use it daily to cook food for our young.

@freeschool
- you claim STEM to be a purely government-funded program it seems, but a STEM can be started/hosted/ran by anyone on any level. Generally speaking, people in general bastardize good intentions- governments just "go big" on it.
- not sure what you mean by business limits unless you're talking natural resources explicitly.
- not trying to ignore you. If I don't respond right away, either the message got buried in my notifications or I'm working.

@freeschool
My apologies, I get a lot of notifications in my feed and this one got buried.

From the sounds of it, you claim common business practices only exist to selfishly leech resources from individuals/nature.

It seems you also claim that all technology does is drive humanity apart into mutual bloodshed that reciprocates the want for more technology.

Are any of these refections correct?