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@sapphire follow logic. you said internals are the most (or at least super duper extra) important thing. I said ok redesign the rest and lets see how little it changes. you literally show that it turned into a whole different thing, proving that internals are not necessarily that important.

@freemo @trinsec

@mkultra again I'm sorry I doubted the sanctity of ARs and their impeccable BBgundom, you can stop protecting them now, and try to understand the actual point.
@freemo @trinsec

@sapphire I believe I only skipped one small ad hominem, it that part necessary for you to continue?
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@Godcast @freemo @trinsec

@mkultra keep regurgitating the brainwash, I never even mentioned mass shootings

@freemo @trinsec

@mkultra I'm not talking about civil war, or guerrilla war, I'm talking about gang wars.

@freemo @trinsec

@Godcast keep asserting, that a boy, arguments are for pussies @sapphire @freemo @trinsec

@Godcast got an actual point that relates to OP, or just want to assert your god given rights?

@sapphire @freemo @trinsec

@Godcast I point out logical mistakes, that's my night job.

@freemo @trinsec

@mkultra do you follow the overall argument, or did you just jump in to protect the honor of AR-15 as the ultimate rat killer?

@sapphire @freemo @trinsec

@sapphire nice legos, but it seems to me that you are proving my point that there is lot more to the firearm design, than the internal tweaks. You changed the other parts and suddenly it's a whole other thing, even though the internals are the same.

@trinsec @freemo

@freemo I'm not disputing it. You are trying to make this a dispute about particulars of AR, when it was just a minor side point. I already said I accept anything and everything you say about AR, for the purposes of my conversation with you, even if you said it's a BB gun. It amuses me that you fail to see how irrelevant it all is.

@sapphire @trinsec

@freemo with you we established that AR-15 is a BB gun, I'm not going to dispute your authority on that, it's sufficient for me that your pro-gun argument boiled down to that.

@sapphire @trinsec

@sapphire redesign me the whole rifle keeping the same internals and prove to me how major the internal tweaks were. There is so much more to any firearm design than whether it can full auto or not, or what the trigger mechanism or locking mechanism are. Those things might be relevant for a military who have to push everything to the limit, but when talking about the contrast between military vs sports and hunting those are minor tweaks.

@trinsec @freemo

@freemo police in USA look more militant than many a military

@ademan @trinsec

@sapphire it's a minor tweak of a military design, if anything it was made to sell surplus military parts. Rifles designed specifically for sharpshooting competition look much cooler than that. I can invent a sport where you have to hit a target with an artillery, doesn't mean modern artillery is designed for sport.

@trinsec @freemo

@ademan who do? police and gangs in countries where gun control is minimal, yeah sure. Most policeman around here don't carry firearms, buttercup. When those things are expensive, makes em really hard to get even on black market. You make them cheaper than toys, well everyone and their granmas would get one.

@trinsec @freemo

@freemo Alright, AR-15 is a useless BB gun, thanks for enlightening me.

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@ademan No idea how you managed to misinterpret what I said so spectacularly. Neither cops nor criminals should have enough military grade equipment to be able to wage war against each other, if you ask me.

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