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F9or those who havent seen it yet this is the article that everyone is yelling at each other over across the #fediverse
https://jeffreyfreeman.me/eugen-rochko-ceo-of-mastodon-found-to-support-nazis-agenda/
@freemo I have some empathy for the situation Eugen finds himself in, but caving to Nazis is never a good idea (not to mention, never the ethical choice).
@arinbasu @freemo The reason this matters is that the joinmastodon list is not itself federated, but it is what people encounter when they wish to join.
I would not have found it if I had joined a few days later.
And I wouldn’t have been happy with any of the choices I was presented with. That’s not good for the #fediverse, and it’s not good for people fleeing Twitter. Often #qoto is exactly the right place for them.
@arinbasu @freemo My promoting #qoto on Twitter is one way to bypass the gatekeeping, and I encourage others to do so as well.
An alternate curated list would also be possible, but a lot of work, and you’d have to find a way to get it front of people who just know “mastodon” and type it into their search bar.
I think this passage says it all:
"The reason QOTO became a focal point at this time is because *we were one of the only servers that allowed our users to choose what content they wanted to block*, and made our blocklist optional, but at the same time *had a zero tolerance stance for hate speech and prejudice*. It became a haven for the LGBTQ+ community that wanted the freedom to choose for themselves what instances make the cut or not."
Do you want to be treated as an *adult* - free to explore the world but held responsible for what you do and say, or as an *infant* that needs protection because they don't know yet how to navigate this world and cannot be held responsible for what they do and say?
Luckily I'm comoletely neutral - so I'm not in the sport of hunting / witchhuntijg / canceling anyone...
When extreme left finds extreme right, or the other way arround - it's logical that the minority of extremists are going to find eachother lol...
Red VS Blue... if you mix those, you grt purple... that's why in the netherlands we have (had) a "Paars Cabinet" (a Purple Government) - Not left, not right but through the middle was the slogan 🤣🤘
So yes, if you get tribalism , just like in reallife - diversity, minority groups, different ethnicities, - all those things USUALLY have an attitude of "Live & Let Live"...
It is normal that when mainculture starts crusading by redefining the norms and ideas about free-speech (dialing it down quite a bit - with indeed probably the idea in mind "to protect minorities, prevent or counter discrimination, racism, hate crimes, seperatism etc.)
But at the same time "the righteous ones" - the crusaders are of course the ones that initially start attacking the status-quo... Which indeed starts with the very honest question "is this the world / society we want to be (in / part of / identify with / agreeing with)...
So by doing that, you are creating "identifiers" - different groups of people with different ideas of what is right and what is wrong... Morals & Values.
Mocking & blacksheeping others based on selfclaimed superior morality stated by minorities has a binding effect: it promotes herd & tribal behaviours - it's typically what minorities understandably do: Find a community where they find sameness, safety, likeminded and connected similarness - a tribal identity... Again, all very natural social behaviour lol..
Not all tribes go to war tho... Not every tribe is a tribe of warriors... Wether it's warriors for justice (greenpeace) lol which back in the days much milder then it is now 🤣 - Everything seems like it was much milder then it is now...
I mean - I like nature... I woukd support greenpece, WWF and the common pro wildlife & nature preserves.... But that's something completely different then actively joining extinction rebellion...
So that's where the social healthy tribalism that we all have - lol even as a non-radicalist, non-extremist but also non-neutralist (because I really think societies need to be aware there is cultural diversity and different viewpoints and ideas)..
Those that cannot handle the fact that there is a variety of ideas in the world, they can just stay in their little self-maintaining bubble... Everyone knows that Turkish communities for example are very much private and focussed towards their own community within society...
Everyone sees that, but it's also ok - because they are not hurting anyone, they do their thing, contribute, give the general greeting - but still are a very exclusive group towards outsiders...
Lol and of course there too you have the Turkish Mafia, the PKK or the GreyWolves etc - that DO get the news.
It's more about political trends and currents throughout societies and the influence of dominant culture... Globalist or anti-globalist, mainstream or niche - nobody can escape the influence of political agendas and active "cultural & social enterpreneuring" - meaning oligarchs like the Soros foundation, like the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation and many other unseen players & parties are spending their billions on activy shaping and tinkering societies...
And again, I belief it's their right to do so - instead of capitalist, they take a type if humanist or socialist approach - I don't know how to call it... But they don't invest in material things, they invest in visions and ideas, philosophies and ideas - like the people at Davos do as well lol...
And those ideas, and ideals, when they meet a very big bag of money and a couple of people that can organise, and a couple of political parties that are directly linked to these organisations haha - well yes - obviously that is going to impact and resculp - or atleast affect societies, people definately will notice let's say that...
Cultural innovation, renovation, reshaping... It's a battle of ideas & philosophies, forcing us to be confronted not with "who we are" - but "how & who we want to be"... That takes a certain maturity and love for philosophy - and the capability to just zoom out and detach.
These identities based on groups / tribes / political colour / sexual preference or moral superiority - well that's fine, but the Self should not be mistakingly be identified as that... Because that is where "being part of a group" turns extemist.
If you identify as the group itself, you become like the hooligan - which is fine to by me, just be aware of it... The hooligan says: If you touch my Club, you touch Me... and if you Touch me, I Touch you...
Things like Black Lives Matter & Extinction Rebellion and others are very good at that - Knights of Honour on their Moral High Horse...
They act like crusaders, and probably are... Backed by their Order of Templars lol... I won't get to deep on that...
But as you see: THIS - This article you shared and the entire evolution & movement and all that going on... Is not stand-alone, it's not a coïncidence, it has nothing to do with chance & everything with probability...
It is what it is: It is a movement, and it is in motion... Whatever people think of it is up to the people, every person is different ;) - lol even those in a group that "think" they "are" the grou, are just individuals like you and I haha...
Goodmorning,
and thanks for sharing - lol although I think there might be an agenda behind that lol... which is fine - people should not fear ideas... They can just look at it and go:"yea yea, that's fine - but not for me, thank you!" - and move on... Unless they choose otherwise of course, that depends on the person... Personal Freedom ;)
Good day 👍
@freemo
I joined qoto earlier this year. Qoto was on the list of recommended instances.
I haven't seen one term being used: virtue signaling. I think it's possible that once a name has become unpalatable in a group--especially with the aire of "you're with us or against us"--it's hard to pull out of that. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is; it seems like a misunderstanding around the term "free speech", which for some includes hate speech, causing others to think qoto supports that.