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@lucifargundam @freemo Yeah same. I have been on-off, semi-active since 2019. Haven't noticed them.
Most people wont, not even on twitter.. But if you run multiple instances of a fediverse client and keep the website up you will likely run into it (I have).
@freemo @shibaprasad @lucifargundam that's the thing. A lot of people (I've seen a couple of complaints from my contacts) keep noticing the rate limits on twitter without any use of automation
@mapto @shibaprasad @lucifargundam
If they are hitting rate limits with no automation then its probablg time they go outside and away from twitter ;)
@freemo @mapto @lucifargundam Haha. Told the same thing to my friend who saw his limit being exceeded. P
I have a friend on IRC who says his friends are posting on birdsite about how mastodon isn't working because of heavy load
@lucifargundam @freemo @mapto Some instances might be facing that problem.
But I have hardly seen QOTO facing that. Magic of Dr. @freemo and other Admins.
@lucifargundam Its still here. Most people have probably never seen it because most people dont bother to exceed the limit. But it is there. I've ran into it myself when i used a fediverse client on multiple devices at once.
@freemo @lucifargundam I've seen a lag at times in synchronising messages but haven't run into a rate limit.
You would only run into it running multiple clients on multiple devices (much like the twitter rate limit in theory).
@freemo @lucifargundam Once, Elon broke the rate limits just by releasing a long tweet feature. No one could post. No one lol
@freemo @olives @lucifargundam I've seen it and one does not need multiple devices...
The easy way to see it is leaving a lot of tabs open in the browser interface. I did that before i realized that all browser tabs poll all the time.
A limit of reading 300 tweets in a day compared against say calling Mastodon's Api endpoints/methods 300 times in 5 minutes. This seems almost incomparable?
Typically rate limits tend to be set in place for the overall integrity of a service, but the recent announcements by Twitter seem insane and might point the finger at some recent changes made to their underlying infrastructure which simply can no longer cope (however "temporary" a measure). I heard that AI tech can be good at designing RISC chips in under 5 hours - who knows maybe AI could be used (maybe has been used) to fix/break certain issues.
Seems you have outdated figured, they have doubled this since it was first brought online and continue to tweak.
I can't imagine most people are responding to more than 600 tweets a day, or looking at them. But I'm sure part of it is to encourage buying a verified account which gets 10K the tweet views. That seems like the most valid complaint I can think of about the whole mess.
@freemo @silvercloudfox Keep in mind that 600 tweets can be easily reached if you're reading one big thread. A comment is also a tweet. So if you read a thread with like 1000 comments, and mostly just scroll past, you've already exceeded the limit.
@freemo @silvercloudfox
I checked it out. I've scrolled through 3 big threads (About 300+ comments each). I'm now not seeing any new comments anymore.
Imagine the Fediverse on drama-day. You scroll through a few big threads, and then you hit a limit so you can't use Mastodon anymore for the rest of the day. ;)
That'd cause more drama and result in more drama-days. But for Twitter it is business as usual. An oh yeah, Elon has now increased those limits 2 times already. :P
@trinsec @freemo @silvercloudfox I also wonder what is the rationale behind selecting that particular number: 300, 600, or whatever.
Is it a data driven selection or just random?
In any case addresing it as "extreme levels of data scraping and system manipulation" seemed a bit lame too.
@shibaprasad
He has to pay some debts related to the network usage. I think he's actually trying to be saving money there by limiting everybody. And for the actual numbers... it's Elon. He doesn't need a rationale.
@trinsec @freemo @silvercloudfox Aah okay. Makes sense.
I was thinking he just wants to milk more money and force people to pay for Twitter. Specially the Twitter addicts.
@shibaprasad I'm sure that's also one of the factors. ๐
Then again maybe there's a different page in X Corp-land. I'm not sure about encouraging the buying of a verified account. I can see that up to a point, but then again they seem to have taken action urgently and without warning which may point at infrastructure issues. Then again with so much transparency I'm sure the world would know about that.
@freemo
What is this about rate limits? Like posting rate limits?
@herag All API queries int he case of mastodon.
@freemo
Oh! I do remember that! Shit... But it wasn't really a problem if I remember right. I dunno, I never ran an instance with more than me and like 3 other people.
@herag Its usually never a problem. You will only hit it if you have clients across multiple devices.
@freemo
This must have been before my time. I've never seen it myself.