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@freemo @QOTO Oopsie , I didn't get much response and saw other posts using @QOTO. :picardfacepalm:

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M.S and even many other mastodon incidents tend to have this pattern of behavior. They tend to pick a secret political affiliation then ban everyone who seems to be on the other side

Fear of M.S abusing moderation, as they do, is exactly why I started so we will never do that here so long as you treat liberals with full respect and dont constantly belittle or attack others then you will be fine, even protected here.

We want people on QOTO to be free, without fear, to post their opinions and ideas. For that to happen we have to ensure we dont go around censoring people for opinions.

Be kind to others and you will always be welcome here regardless of your views.

@Full_marx @iakshay @design_RG

@killtamilchimps@mastodon.social @Tallymark90 @Deepsealioness @Pandimarudhu@mstdn.io @freemo Well his profile name 'kill Tamil Chimps' says it all.
I am a Tamilian (I speak Tamil)
Chimps, i guess Chimpanzees? But he wants to kill all tamil speaking chimpanzees? Wow, where can i find such chimps? Would love to be bros with him.
I'm too sleepy to react to his abuse right now.
" bad words bad words bad words, etc --who are you to think purely brahminical sangi (Brahmin- The upper cast Hindu community) such as Thiruvalluvar (31 BCE poet, Remember he is a poet and not a religious icon) is Christian "
When did i say he was a Christian?

@Full_marx @iakshay @design_RG Wow, if you're blocked for simply being a 'right-winger' then that sucks! But if you didn't follow their community guidelines then i can understand. I'm sure @freemo won't do such things, for no Apparent/Valid reason.

@Full_marx @freemo @stux @Gargron
Interesting.
"In a country full of superstition and cow-worship telling people that we need to build 'Aerodomes' and Combustion Laboratories and 'Particle Accelerators' is not going to spread scientific curiosity." This sentence hurts me physically. We abuse almost all the applications from like Internet, phones. modern medicine, Media platform , automobiles and so on. But our country is filled with superstitions based on whatever reason.
"Pick up science books instead' should be the go to Savarkar quote for Hindutva supporting Indians !

@Full_marx @freemo @stux @Gargron
Although , (I can't stress this enough) I cannot accept Savarkar ideologue personally,but I am keen on knowing more.
My few questions are,
1, Does minorities have a role in (Muslims, Christians, Dalits and Atheist, etc.)
2, Can I be a person and will Hindutva accept me?
3, Freedom of speech and expression will be ridiculed? Or debated with respect?
4, What role does Science play in Hindutva? India is lagging way behind in terms of science and technology (Relatively). Will Hindutva encourage Scientific facts or excerpts from scriptures? i.e. Facts over traditions.
(I can see a lot of far right Indian politicians making statements like aeroplanes were used by Hindu gods, Cow milk is gold, Cow dung protects us from radiation, Modi himself said that cosmetic surgery was practiced in India thousands of years ago, Dr KJ Krishnan (at Indian Science Congress) reportedly said Newton failed to "understand gravitational repulsive forces" and Einstein's theories were "misleading", he insisted on renaming it as 'Narendra Modi' waves , An educational minister from Rajasthan said that Cows exhale oxygen' etc etc. Will pseudoscience play a role in Hindutva ?

@Full_marx @freemo @stux @Gargron
"Politicians will now be forced to talk about development issue and poverty alleviation."- Hopefully ! 🤞
I strongly believe education is the way to move forward. It curbs all myths and superstitions. Religion won' t be a deciding factor in politics but science and facts.
I always opposed Hindutva, Creative solutions sounds nice ! but the aftermath could be futile don't you think?
I would love to hear what is Hindutva from your perspective?

@Full_marx @freemo @stux @Gargron Ok here we go again. :morty:
That's an amazing theory you have there :)
While it was intriguing to read, here is where it needs some fact checking.
1, Mosque was built around 1528 by the orders Mughal Emperor Babur says one theory. Aurangzeb theory is backed by only one- Joseph Tiefenthaler but several scholars such as Francis Buchanan, Anton Fuhrer made different claims. The inscriptions inside the structure allegedly carries varying information deciphered by several scholars.Patrick Carnegie (British Archaeologist) claims that the Kasauti pillars found inside strongly resemble Buddhist viharas. But we can't overrule anything as there is no conclusive report.
2, "There was a reason the supreme court handed the land to the Hindus" - you said.
ASI findings didn't play a major role in the verdict. When ASI stated that there is obviously a layout beneath the mosque of 'non-islamic' origin. SC further stated that ASI didn't make any comment on whether the underlying structure is exclusively an Hindu Temple.
You are claiming that the Congress government manipulated ASI findings. If true, its an huge offence. Why didn't the BJP who is in control of both State and central government for the last few years order a new commission to come up with a completely new set of ASI report.

The 'theories' keeps piling up. Should we consider and quote the ones that are supporting our claims? or talk about all possibilities?
Ayodhya verdict was 'not' based on the ASI findings. (Since you provided much importance on ASI in your post)

3, I don't want this to be a political debate by involving any party. I don't endorse any party. But a mere google search (if you don't have access to news articles spanning decades) of who committed atrocities in the name of Babri Masjid and influenced the vote banks; you wouldn't have limited you critique to liberal side alone.

4, "In 1992 a gathering of around 100,000 Hindus tore down the dilapidated mosque demanding that Ram Temple underneath it be restored"
They weren't Hindus.(Last I checked Hindu population is almost 80% in India i.e. approx 966 million. So only 0.010351% of them were Hindus and VHP members). Hindutuva is not Hinduism.
They were Hindu activists predominantly from Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP) origin.
The government shot and killed 100s? No, check the official State government statement.
The Ayodhya verdict it self states that Desecration of Mosque structure was wrong.

5, To conclude, Indian constitution doesn't have jurisdiction over Aurangzeb or Babri. We are not a Hindu nation. We are a democratic entity that was formed less than 100 years ago. We respect our constitution more than scriptures.
A group of 100,000 terrorists destroyed a place of worship (They didn't trust in Indian constitution / Judicial proceeding. What gave them the right to take matters in their own hand? If they can do it yesterday, any organization with lakhs of members can terrorize a place ? what precedence does it set? )

"After this Judgement no politician in India can ask for votes in the name of religion. Narendra Modi is the only person who could have facilitated this."
- From 1996 to 2019, the only constant thing in BJP's manifesto is 'Ram Mandir'. This is an excerpt from 2019 BJP's manifesto - 'We reiterate our stand on Ram Mandir. We will explore all possibilities within the framework of the Constitution and all necessary efforts to facilitate the expeditious construction of the Ram Temple in Ayodhya.'
I am glad (like you) that Narendra Modi, Left leaning politicians, etc won't be using Ram Mandir for their benefit.

I understand that the emotions are running high when it comes to Ayodhya. I believe it was a place of significance for Hindu community. I'm happy for crores of Indians who will get to pray there for years to come. But the act of demolition will always hurt.
Violence begets Violence.

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@Karthikdeva dust allergies acting up now! Never before had that issue unless I was at a construction site or anywhere near a place super dusty! They still burst crackers here, even after the way the sky has been looking.... So basically nobody cares. I suspect pollution and everything about it in this area sucks!

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Request : Tooters who have a blue tick after their name in Masodon, please remove. It is a status symbol, a relic of the BirdSite. We really have no place for a caste or class heirachy here. Of course, it is upto you.

@JefusMartin @Amazon We (my family) just watched it last week. Amazing movie.
Kalaignar vasanam + Sivaji nadipu ❤️ :drake_like:

for today,
What are all the local calamities (preferably environmental) you are facing currently? Do you suspect as a reason behind it? (or) some other factor?
Is there anything you or your local authority can do to solve any immediate/ long-term crisis?

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What a huge spike at . 723 new users in less than a week.

All the new STEM posts I'm seeing popping up are amazing and its also great to meet so many new people.

As many of you know they are largely from India :india: and I for one amd enjoying all the new culture and perspectives they are bringing.

Its great being a part of this community and seeing it grow.

@Deepsealioness
Periyar : “Every one has the right to refute any opinion. But no one has the right to prevent its expression.”
Sanghis and Amethi police : 'You have just made a political comment. delete it immediately, otherwise legal action will be taken against you'
Periyar : ...
Amethi Police: *blocked*

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RT @Greatman__@twitter.com
A guy proposed to his girlfriend in a KFC canteen. A journalist laughed at him in a tweet but didn't know she was blessing them.
The tweet went viral and now big bigger biggest companies are sponsoring the whole event.

Thread....

@spinesurgeon @Tallymark90 We used to ignore woolworths 😶
But look at them, spreading joy :100_queer:

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