arteteco @arteteco@qoto.org

@imvectech
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@slackz Thanks for your encouragement, I'll do my best!

@slackz I laughed way harder than I should have.

@slackz

What you suggest are valuable contribution to any community, and I'll put it in the todo hoping that we'll find the energy and people to do such things.

But we are right now just a bunch of people in a big city (I'm just moving back here this year), so I'll have to strive to get people composting, let alone composting their shit (which is something I really like and push for at the very beginning of more rural projects)

What we can do, now that you make me think about it, is do more one shot thing, like a properly organized compost toilet workshop, or graywater phytodepuration workshop, so that interested people from outside the city could join us. That could be a more immediately doable thing.

Thanks for your input, very appreciated.

@quokka #mastomatodon. Perfect. I can see this hashtag getting quite some traction.

Go tomato!

@absolutus Hi, thanks for your input!

We are going to release updated and videos about what we are doing, and peertube is a great idea. I already had troubles in making them understand why the content shouldn't only be on facebook, but I'll fight with teeth and nails to use as many free software as possible =)

A little note about it that I'd like to share.

We thought about how much effort we want to put into media, and we concluded that there are enough tutorials, podcasts, people talking about the matter on the net.

There is a weird perception that is "if you are aware of a problem you solved it", and spreading "awareness" seems to many like solving problems.

That is not necessarily true, unfortunately. It is an important first step, but until you plant that tree, recognizing the importance of trees is just knowledge.

We decided to prioritize getting our hands dirty, growing actual food, planting actual flowers for impollinators, creating afk social networks, make real contacts with communities, instead of doing symbolic action that are just good to "spread a message" on the web.

@monsterbater Oh, I see what you mean.

Well, when you cherry-pick facts from history you can make it look like it's going for the best or worst without much effort, and in both cases it would be so simplified to be just wrong.

That doesn't answer your question: I'm not sure that I want to take a position of whether humans beings should be encouraged to survive.
But it would be a bit arrogant to put the human at the center of everything.

What I do feel is that we are taking the rest of the biosphere with us, and we have immense power that, if they went in the right direction, could at least amend much of our past 2000 years destruction.
At the end of the day, is either that or keep going in this path, killing more species, creating more instability, eventually making a hell even for tardigrades.

So, as a human being, I'd like to roll my sleeves and see what I can do to make it better.

Just my position though.

@monsterbater
I am not sure I understand what you mean. Are you saying that by trying to have the environment restored we are also prolonging our life as a species and therefore also our violent behaviors?
Violence between ourselves is only made worse when you have lack of resources. Beside, we'd also like to have a social value, food is kind of a universal bonding tool :)

I'd like to hear why you think it's a bad idea though, inputs is what I asked in this.post :)

@Nihola can I ask you what part of the world are you located?

@Nihola An emergency seed bank is something I haven't thought about, my seed library idea was mostly to keep some local varieties from extinction. I get the real necessity for seeds which is not only a fancy single specimen, but also what we need to plant crops, and I'll push to upscale the seed bank in that direction.

Buy/propagate trees and plants in general is a great idea, and possibly even a way to get some economical help from people (easier to get some contribution if we are offering plants in exchange, and we can have people to be guardians of local varieties and useful plants).

Thanks, both inputs are very appreciated and will be put to use =)

@drewfer You mean using paper you can dispose of by planting it?
Disposal is not the only problem in general, the energy consumption, the resource depletion for the production and so on are also to be considered, and usually is more savvy to just refuse to use something.
At least, we'd like to try to set the best examples we can, both in our way of action and our own life.

If we get some paper in the trash, that would be fine though =)

@drewfer We'd like not to print stuff to avoid paper/ink/general waste, but there are many ways to communicate and the idea of spreading knowledge in this contexts is pretty valid, thanks =)

@tulsi That would be more time and resource consuming that we can afford at the beginning (we don't have much money and still haven't got a plan to become economically sustainable), but it goes into the todo list for when we'll feel more established, thanks!

@drewfer I plan to give away much of my worms in some worm-composting workshops, but I haven't thought about doing it in fairs, as a chance to chit chat and raise awareness (beside the practical benefit of having more people composting their scraps). Great idea!

@artsyhonker I usually am not fond of the transition town, both because the possible energy crises doesn't seem like the major problem in the years to come, and because I am not used to work in bigger scale, but that blinded me in not looking up their work for some ideas, which is a great tip. Thanks!

@tulsi Thanks, here in Italy we have ninux(http://ninux.org/FrontPage) which is a similar project. I'm doing that with my hacklab though, didn't think of integrating it with the environmentalist group... it may be nice to have the two working together maybe!

@tomasino@mastodon.sdf.org

Thanks for your answer. self watering beds and cultivation stuff is taken care of, energy production actually was not in our radar... but it goes right in the proposal, I think is a great idea and we could get "techies" into it.

Mesh network is something I'm already thinking of doing with my hacklab, in Italy we have a big network already (ninux) but is difficult to set up the antennas as it's very hilly/mountains around here... it is related though, I agree and will put some more effort into it!

#Help wanted!
With some friends we are setting up a local informal environmentalist group, with the aim of pushing forward good practices, spread sustainability, ecological awareness, and this kind of #solarpunk. stuff.

So far we are planning of doing #permaculture , #food production, #composting workshops, #Seed library, #GuerrillaGardening, collective purchase from #RegenerativeAgriculture farms, but we'd like to have more on the todo list.

Help me get out of our echo chamber, and give me your ideas about more activities we could engage ourselves and the local communities in.

Thanks!

@strypey
Are you sure is a couchsurfing fork? I thought it was written bottom up