So I have realised that I'm quite a shoddy programmer.
This is what happens when you learn from "Instant" online courses : You skip over the fundamentals.
So to remedy that I"m on a journey.
I am currently following a course of udemy:
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Computer Science 101: Learn Computer Science to become a better Programmer and Software Engineer.
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The course basically teaches you what the Big(0) is and also teaches the various memory models like Arrays and Linked Lists (It's more of a close to the metal approach)
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This course is helping me understand memory, after @design_RG exposed me to drum memory. I got fascinated with the way the register works and everything and now i want to first understand CompSci fundamentals before jumping into languages.
But the problem is that I feel Memory is only part of the equation.
The reason I decided to get into CompSci at 29 was because I was interested in Logic.
I wonder if anyone knows a good cheap online resource to understand the fundamentals of Algorithms.
As I've always known that these courses that teach the rocks of this craft always have the word Data Structures and Algorithms in them,
I have a course that covers Data Structures in a language agnostic way.
Anyone know of a similar cheap course that covers Algorithms too?? Does this even exist or is it a product of my imagination?
https://www.udemy.com/course/computer-science-101-master-the-theory-behind-programming
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To be fair the **vast** majority of programmers are shit. The sad part is that a large portion of them don't realize it. Those are the ones who are really doomed.
the very fact that you think you are a shoddy programmer, whether true or not, is already very promising.
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Yes, I think Jeff said it well - the fist step in the road to improvement is to recognize there's a lot more to learn.
So don't despair, and be happy you have the curiosity to seek this knowledge. You will have a better understanding, do better work as a result of the learning you acquire.
The course you described above sounds excellent. I had programming courses ages ago, as part of my first year Engineering curriculum, but don't feel qualified to point the way into a scientific approach to education deeper into computer science.
I agree fully with your insight that the concepts should come before learning a specific language; or be taught along with the language, as a way to practice and produce test code.
Glad to see you engaging in this fascinating journey, Karl. Go for it! 
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