🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@b6hydra

Sounds like we are more or less in agreement then.

@herag @IntegralDuChemin

@kingannoy@octodon.social

I wont claim to know or interprit dutch law. I will say that shooting without the intent to kill, particularly if warned first, is a perfectly proportional response to intentional property damage.

Stomping on a car can easily cause 10K+ worth of damage. With dutch health insurance a shot to the leg might cost 1/10th of that. Likewise stomping on a car could lead to all sorts of collateral damage, including that car exploding, so the person is defending, indirectly, against potential safety risks just as the person being shot has a risk of having permanent injury.

So yea, seems proportional to me.

@frank87 @louisrcouture

@djatropine444 I have no idea if you are rich honestly. I'm also not sure if Trump is rich, I dont get to see his checkbook nor does my family. For a rich person he does an awful lot of begging for chump change though, so take that for what you will.

But yea your right that they are generally very different people behind the scenes than on TV. Its all for the cameras mostly.

I will 100% support that wrestling match.

@Jojothegoodperson

Sorry luna was a typo/brain fart. Yes I meant Jar.

I can understand that Jar's perspective on women's right is a focus for her. For me women's rights are one among several things that matter to me and I dont generally prioritize one above another. The priorities of issues for her or me is not a big issue for me either way.

Her views on trans people are bigoted yes. Whether she treates them with hate or not I havent seen (in your case jojo that was the case) but based on her bigoted views I would expect her to likely treat them hatefully. That said I have not witnessed her directly interacting with a transperson so I can only speculate. But having bigoted views is enough for me to draw an opinion that is concerning, even if other facts she may not be such a horrible person.

I certainly dont mind her "asking questions", the concerning part seems to be the answers she came up with. Not wishing ill on trans people is a start. There are degrees to both hate and bigotry, but even moderate bigotry is quite appalling on its own.

As for her comments on "predatory" i suspect she has very different views on what constitutes predatory, but maybe not. Regardless predatory women, men, trans, CIS, whatever is not acceptable. I really see no need to qualify a persons gender when talking about how predatory anything is bad... not entierly sure how someone can be predatory to someones orientation though, not even sure what that means.

Finally, I do appreciate the apology for the harassment and thank you for saying so. As far as I know Jar wasnt involved in that so I do not hold that against her in and of itself. Even the server I'd be happy to unsilence at the instance level should the admin of the server make a statement that the harassment was out of line and would not happen again int he future. But since she condoned it at the time the instance wide silence has regrettably needed to remain in force.

@Luna @Jar

@lurker hahaha .. dude you got 2 - 3 weeks with ears you cant hear out of and watch how excited you will be when you finally fix that shit :)

man I should have bought an otoscope a LONG time ago

@djatropine444 My family has a close history with politicians and have given a lot of money to them. Trump was over my family home for dinner and his kids spent the night back when he was fund raising. Biden also was over for dinner back when he was fund raising.

So yea I can atest these guys invest a lot of time, even with a single person, trying to convince them they arent slime balls so they can get a few 100k

@b6hydra

I'm not in favor of defunding the police, though they probably dont need as much money as they do... I am in favor, however, of completely reforming the system from the ground up.

@herag @IntegralDuChemin

after days of trying toc lear out a piece of ear wax that was sitting on my ear drum it finally came out today!!!! Fuck yea, today is a good day :)

@fuckyourmom

Glad I'm here to spread awareness then!

@Jojothegoodperson @Luna @Clariana @Hollahollara

@Jojothegoodperson

He called me fat, so I have no problem treating him disrespectfully. A person does not deserve respect once they demonstrate they themselves will not interact with you respectfully

@Luna @Clariana @Hollahollara

@Jojothegoodperson

I have no issue treating an asshole like an asshole personally.

@Luna @Clariana @Hollahollara

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I dont speak french, but I am doing well thanks.

@Luna @Jojothegoodperson

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Are you a new party to the conversation or an alt of luna or jojo (its ok if your an alt just want to get my bearings).

@Luna @Jojothegoodperson

@djatropine444 agreed entierly. The issue is in the USA that mentality is just far too common on both sides.

@Jojothegoodperson

I cant speak to if Luna agrees with me in other areas, it very well could be the case. I'm not sure how relevant it is. Keep in mind im not engaging with luna simply because the server is silenced due to aforementioned reasons. Otherwise I would have no objection to talk it out with her.

That say women's rights, along with male rights, generally anti-sexism, is a very important priority for me. So to claim I dont care about women's rights is false. What is clear, however, is that she has very different opinions about women's rights or sexism in general than me.

@Luna @Jar

@aspie4K throw in an ambien and youll be running down the street naked in no time!

@Jojothegoodperson

Jar being one of your friends doesnt make their argument any more compelling. I am not telling you who you can be friends with. I'm not even telling you what to think or what morals to have. I am telling you that your actions are a disgrace and cause me to loose a great deal of respect for you.

Now you said you were wrong, if you believe that and demonstrate that moving forward I have no problem saying you can regain my respect. No one is perfect and learning and growing will always regain my respect. But as we stand right now I am quite disgusted by what I see.

@Luna @Jar

@Jojothegoodperson

For starters, the reason I dont engage with what they said is because i cant see what they said, and frankly given that non-sense explanation im kinda glad I cant hear them.

@Luna @Jar