🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@phoenix

Several of the studies tested at different times after infection, all that is covered. This is just the average.

Keep in mind to have the same average but shorter duration would have to mean that somehow getting vaccinated **increased** your viral load over a shorter period. Which of course makes no sense. But yea the studies cover all that.

@selea

@skells

Hahaha, this is true :)

@zpartacoos

@skells

I was in a elevator once backed shoulder to shoulder with brits (in england near whales). There was one kid.

I said loud so everyone can hear "I hope no one needs to fart". Every single brit looked like I just committed a mass murder in that elevator. The only person laughing was me and the kid.

This right here is why everyone hates the brits :)

@zpartacoos

@bluejay About as many people as those who voted for Trump realize he was the worst at the time... which is to say, not many.

@phoenix
Who said it was a single measurement? The image i showed has mean and variance from a sample, this thr result of many tests. A single test would have never passed peer review
@selea

@phoenix huh? I just explained why incidence rate is subject to post hoc ergo procter hoc where viral load is not. The incidence rate is trivially explained by other mechanisms where the viral load ia not.

We cant just cherry pick the data we want to because it fits our earlier assumptions. As a scientist i have an obligation to yield to the science no matter where it leads

And yes you need to read any one of the many studies that came out supporting the above data and conclusion. You shouldnt be going off just whats in this post, this post is simply a summary of where the science is right now.

@selea

@xarvos

Again, hard to say anything with certainty. But the viral load would suggest not. There is no reason to think that you could have the same viral load and somehow reduce tranmission.

@phoenix

@phoenix

yea problem with that data is the post hoc procter hoc fallacy which can be a big concern on indirect data like that. For example once could explain the data by saying more unvaccinated people are careless about the virus since they dont think its deadly (thus why they arent vaccinated) and thus are a much higher incident simply because they social distance less and arent as mindful.

Thats why newer direct evidence tests, like measuring viral load directly, is far more telling.

@selea

@selea

The data on anything related to COVID is too new to ever make any real absolute assertions. But yea recent data suggests the patterns we thought we saw suggesting limited protection were post hoc procter hoc and in fact the viral load of people who are vaccinated is exactly the same with delta as unavaccinated.

@phoenix

@phoenix ugh.. I mean i dont think the vaccines are needed with delta pretty much making them useless. But since they post virtually 0 risk I see no reason not to, just in case the latest data is wrong.

The Netherlands sounds like it is a minecraft level or something.

@zpartacoos The british? You mean that American colony over near Europe? Are they still even alive since we cut them off?

@isolategab

I had some culture jam on my bagel this morning. I didnt like it, it was too bitter.

@TechyTommy@mstdn.social

@phoenix Whats a COVIDIOT? Someone who things COVID is a hoax and goes around telling everyone its a psyop or some shit?

I dunno who needs to hear this, but canadian bacon is **not** bacon, its ham.

@realcaseyrollins You mean when will it get into vanilla? PRobably never unless you heard something. You are of course most welcome to pull from our code base into your own but I think you are pleorma arent you? So that may not be an option.

@Pat

The key to interacting with quinn is never to ask questions... just accept it as true, integrate it into your life, and in 30 to 40 years when you finally understand the depth of his wisdom then you can come back to him and thank you for it.

@icedquinn

@Pat If a balloon has -1 holes then who am I to argue that the a diluted universe is actually a singularity. As long as we are pissing in the wind lets add a few inches to my dick size too while were at it.