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@log @kbsez @jeffjarvis

> "...both left and right are evil..." This sounds like one of those "using different definitions for words" statements that makes me question whether I can even communicate without a glossary attached.

You are entierly correct that is extremely likely here because left and right are sadly very overloaded terms. So it may help if I qualify what **I** mean by left and right at least.

I mean the right according to more or less self-described lables int he USa and left more less by self-described labels. As in, the vast majority of those who are in the USA and would say "I am a leftist voter" would fall under this as would be those who say the opposite.

Again, only int he USA, there is a distinction of the left, you have what 98% call the left, which is just that self label, then then you have a small 2% who would usually refer to themselves as libertarians who self describe as "classically left". I would not be including that group here, at least not to the same extent.

> Politics is a multidimensional spectrum, rife with shifting alliances.

Agreed

> The Marxist-Leninists and the Fascist-Plutocrats are both definitely evil. But neither entirely represent Left and Right.

I do not find either of those are representative, entierly of their side. They are botht he most extreme ends of the spectrum of those two sides. I am claiming that while those sides are the "greatest evil" most on either side, even if not to that extreme are still evil, just, less exaggerated is all.

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🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

Hmm have a feeling DOGE might just overlook this one.

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Them: Who is your greatest idol?
Me: Me....
Them: Umm I dont think you can do that.
Me: That's why it isn't you.

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@kbsez @jeffjarvis

They already did that in response to the left-wing loons which is why the whole world is swinging right. I agree with you and wish they now did it too with the right-wing loons and finally realized both left and right are evil and will develop new philosophies born out of reason, compassion, and objective evaluation of the impact of our actions... but sadly I only expect things to get worse so long as both sides remain vile and toxic groups.

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Offering money for a few people's thoughts (experiment) + points about your own relativity (optional 10 notes in reading)... 

@freeschool @invidious

Not sure who gave the impression we arent a mainstream server. We are, last i checked, one of the top 20 connected servers on the whole fediverse (in other words your posts are seen by more people when you post here than most).

You have to understand why, most of the blocking that occurs for QOTO is due to our policy of not blocking other servers. This means you generally have two types of servers, ones that block **tons** of servers(but dont tell their users) and are blocked by few server, or those that dont block any but are blocked by other servers as a result. As such when your on a server that isnt blocked very much you generally still are blocking most of the fediverse.

This is something we havent just measured but ive seen countless times. We often loose users because they hear about this and think like you do. Then when they move servers they loose half their user base (because the destination blocks those servers) and worse yet can not rebuild their follower base. The difference is stark when i watch how quickly our users tend to gain followers based on how slowly people gain followers on other servers.

Ive tested this myself by opening quite a few accounts on other servers and posting content there regularly (but under a different identity).. while here i getr some 10+ new followers a day many accounts on other servers are a year old with barely 50 followers.

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🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

@chris

I agree.

A test for yourself, can you think of at least 10 opinions you have that is antithetical to botht he right and the left parties? Certainly I know many of mine are, but I am fairly unusual in that regard it seems.

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Blenster

It's 9:20 PM Eastern and I'm glad you're alive.

Seriously. Thanks for being here with me now.

We're all in this together.

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@johnlogic My response would be, I'm sorry I cant respond to this, I seem to have a panic attack anytime talks about your company or airplanes, I cant even stay calm long enough to consider your very insultingly low offer of only 30K dollars.

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"We are god-like in the reach of our actions, but ape-like in having the vision of the consequences of our actions." -- me :)

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@freeschool @invidious

But if you want two quotes to consider:

First a real one:

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing." -- John Stuart Mill

And a common fake quote, everyone knows the phrase it is attributed to Edmund Burke but is really just a common phrase and not a quote:

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,”

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@freeschool @invidious

I love a good quote. This one is new to me and i can think of a few quotes that for me are a bit more poetic and resonate more, but also would be farther off the mark in terms of your message. So not sure Id actively suggest any of them.

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@freeschool @invidious

In the past at times i have been harsh about your pushiness on certain requests. But i have recently realized it was most likely you just being passionate about your view of a better world and perhaps getting frustrated about people not getting on board and working with you to bring it to fruition. That is an understandable reaction and in the end your goals are and were worthy of discussion and merit. So just wanted to say that.

That said I suspect if you took that passion and perhaps tweaked how you approach people a bit, you could get much better results. Some of it is just working with peoples short comings and not anything wrong you did yourself. For example long messages will automatically exclude 95% of your audience and cause most of your views, however valid, to go unread. Cant fault you for putting time into expressing yourself fully but regardless of how people **should** respond we live in a world where should isn't is. If you adjusted your message to be more easily digestible along with a few tweaks to how you otherwise interact with people I think it could go a long way at getting you a better response and backing to your goals.

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@randahl

Trump threw Pence under a bus, and the mob was ready to kill the man.. He lost any chance of pence supporting him 4 years ago, and rightfully so... Not remotely surprising.

That said, obviously Trump is lying, just like Biden if his mouth is moving he is lying.

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Randahl Fink

This is the 48th Vice President of The United States — Trump’s own Vice President — now calling Trump a liar in front of the entire world.

Trump is losing support by the minute.

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FreeSchool=Co-Op+Friendship🔁?

Asking good people to make more good people, but not quite getting there... #Quote + My life aims explained... 

from a measurably good person 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 @freemo showing well what I mean:

:airquote: "I agree that to really improve it requires one on one , , and between people.

The only thing to keep in mind is QOTO, and the greater around it, has a mission that has always been very STEM oriented.

What you propose (@freeschool) is great, and if you ever do it ill be happy to support you in what little ways my bandwidth might allow.

But ultimately as a place with a mission that is ultimately where our focus has and always will .

I'm always happy for a chat when I can find the time, I appreciate your views." :airquote:

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( is with permission and used to show the many similar DM's I've made to many similar higher levels of intellect or those responsible for instances / tech or even a conscious soul *anywhere* on the .

Many can't even reply to these "bettering-people" parts of messages (Freemo is always good at replying) and even people answering are ironically not about the "not-just-machines?" parts - and only the parts they want.

I constant see measurably that have some decency and morals, and want for it - but not putting in the time. Even they are going for some very aims of bettering people according to their own sites or profile descriptions! But question why you even message them (not a good start / shows bad faith from beginning).

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Below explains more why this quote is here and perhaps why life is not working in a longer sense of nobody solving it (Tech can be as the assistant while people do the people work but not expecting Tech to do the people work)....

THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS POST - WILL CLEAN UP AS I RE-DO / IMPROVE BUT MOSTLY ALL IS HERE...

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...And a minor play on words for the word "lie" helps me start to explain things hopefully more memorably for any reader...

To help me explain the seemingly 'strange' phenomenon of making better people daily as a daily habit, I decided to added a hashtag on the the word above (in the quote)...

⬆️ Did you notice that? ⬆️

...This helps me start to explain that I think all the code / machines / external in the world is really becoming an increasing to people and measurably so as results - directly and indirectly...

And even if people can also "lie" or choose to be bad, people can't do it so often if they themselves don't believe in it . AND THAT IS CRUCIAL.

With tech you can do a lot more or a lot quicker or lie about it differently as a cover for many more reasons.

I can plug your code into other things and even run it all day and the tech doesn't know the difference - becoming a horror of code eventually (even if it's great now) like a horror of the cartoon series as too many transformers have been added together and didn't know when to do more quality code and are lop-sided code production became (forgive a bit of poetic license).
It was always going to be human from over-doing machine code even without those putting it together deliberately in their own order as another weapon. We see from enough that we had lots of chances in life for not using things for bad or solving other things, but we have to assume all tech is going to be used for same bad eventually and in many more ways. The wars definitely didn't stop and computers are largely part of that and human ignorance.

So while I'm not saying "don't create anything" and not saying that "bad people will never exist after this". still it's better people, practice and do more regularly the examples we wish to see which means less of this abuse, or more checks, and limits it to individuals who even if they are bad have much harder work for them to maintain that bad which things like Tech helps them to do easier and even hide behind.

⬆️ Can I rest my case or do you disagree totally what need more time? (people or tech)

That's why Tech can be MUCH more of a lie than people lying to each other.
Because has nearer-0 ability to and no matter how much you tell (or hammers of code) not to be used badly on others someone else can insert it to do bad.

'Bad' also in another sense that depends on two people or people in the room respecting those personalities and souls of the people not just a rigid "standard" set of rules even of a moral kind because there are 100 ways people can do things and achieve same result still good for everyone. Binary fascism or just inaccuracy from listing all of attributes / we're not just a number or 1 category of people as "White" etc etc...

Tech is not good at customising in these ways or that between people (tech becomes the incorrect focus instead)..

Humans learn from Humans... and adapt too...

People have some ability to feel / see what's happening and learn to care... so once people play that game a bit more (even in business) then I'm sure more will care and share more often too and start to accept change of priority (people over profit sometimes) because it makes sense for them (and not needing to screw everyone all the time)..

In the non-physical or non-hardware sense the modern day continues as on people today (it didn't stop since WW2) as the virtualised and (stuff from distance used to cheat people for / ) so it only makes sense for us to slowly align back to ourselves / teach ourselves better politics between us... so we don't end up with the same leaders or snakes and equivalent such as:

❌ Linux adfarms 🔨 or
❌ Mastodon google links 🔨 :google:

You see adfarms or google youtube links also serve them from us.
I asking @Gargron years back to make some posts even unofficially / personally to say 'you can also use... (anti links below)

yewtu.be/ or
redirect.invidious.io/
nyc1.iv.ggtyler.dev/feed/popul

...so instead of direct links on Fediverse we use @invidious links as just a suggestion to millions of users (Invidious was working for years but recently down) Following what seems we all came to Fediverse for avoiding (feeding the bad guy / bad tech).

Not showing google adverts indirectly or by proxy is just 1 half.

The other half is helping people use open source Invidious which didn't seem a priority for even as a mention (not just future betterment of Mastodon as a potential feature or plugin) for his or users (which OK it's not all on him but he seems more against it a bit which was strange).

A lot of it good things overlaps (or naturally do) which is why we're here, but more on that in another post and just an example - not hating).

People can learn and see better IF WE WORK ON IT.. and see who doesn't want too. Tech is all so covered. You'd trust TechIncX but not trust me.

⬇️ EXAMPLE ⬇️
HOW YOUR PRODUCTIVITY / WORK IS MADE BETTER WITH PEOPLE / USERS INVOLVED

People told me to install Ubuntu / etc but TO START it took a nice person to do a walk-through to help me start.
People are not always "lame" or dumb... it's motivation + human brain(s) needing to do computer work and co-operate to get things done 🔁 (either for themselves 🔁 or the other and both 🔁 in the end).

THIS is all part of it (and not just leaving about leaving ISO somewhere on the web for people to download and stop at hurdle 1 or 2, or poor documentation).

⬆️ THIS help (above) the best 'forever' work in my eyes which turns any I.T. or operating system into more human-used and co-created work (measurably).

People "hands-down" need people much more than more tech. So in this case you get more installs and win against your opposition purely because you took the time with people. You find a lot more other things at the same time (bugs, places of improvement, beginner's opinions, expert advice in other fields etc)

The best "slowly-but-surely" work is work with people more often rather than 100 more tech and mini-Google's destined to be eaten / bought up by Google or similar.

No matter how non-profit you or QOTO intends to be (all is still profit in some way) the state is not stupid to make fair containers or keep things fair / not pulling the plug somewhere / unruggable.

The million stories daily from all companies or state itself (that we are still learning) we need to step out of completely sometimes and see further that as entities people themselves (*the individual* container) holds better their own values in themselves than tech as main reason and with others too this formidable in a different way.

Risk of deception is always there but more often clearer in people over time rather than a general tech extension replaced by another head of snakes always leaving people quite empty in their wake and us having no choice over it. Sorry for the vibes but all crosses everything.

❓ Even on individual level, doesn't life seem too empty or over-reliant on Tech? ❓

❓ Isn't it like we have to have something switched on draining energy? ❓

People who played Super Nintendo or PlayStation in younger years (or still now) know that Linux PlayStation can be the same when you power down, empty and alone (again). Just passing time into yes a seeminglt 'perfect' 'logical' machine.

But people are possibly in worse position if not improving others in any deeper sense and create themselves or others as "just another user" or another "crazy genius tired broken down admin"
(like developer maybe who is making the best thing since mobile operating system but so terrible as person or in people skills).

People are measurable and repairable and we can be accountable without needing to punish, but hardly without more deliberate time given or as we do things with that integrated.

What / who is behind the bigger pipe of tech is an increasing very false provider / less true to people things as that root trust is changeable to some extent as things can be bought and sold.

Something that might work today later doesn't or is over-done too often. all while people are left almost helpless or not helped in the personal sense of enjoying and learning directly with people or frankly having a normal kind of regular "therapy of life" during our struggling time "repairing" ourselves as a therapy instead of thinking focusing on more code is the way or doing things many don't understand on a simpler level.
Co-creating life and being more exposed to more types of "strangers" helps us be friends with the work even with a bit more of a measured approach and making time for it.

Various scales of lying means it's either people not being genuine or people not understanding what's behind the tech (US storage space and traffic as basis for everything able to be switched off / snooped on / )
not to mention what your servers run on (unless you're not outsourcing it and )...

...and then seeing that anyway... (away from the usual hate for companies):

... Simply heading for each other's fellowship and company, using tech as only a basic medium for maximising growing of each other, is much better way for incrementing trust and helping others do the same (while even some tech projects continue but hopefully more people orientated).

Because we have enough tech do we not? We can di whatever we want mostly (talk, text, call, video, audio etc)

Tech can't do much more for us now to make better people... Or can it?

Or do you think we need more to make good people suddenly?

Past more videos and more media. I personally need people who are failing me all over the place. Not really code other than very basic maintenance of the existing.

Only people can actually do the people work WITH other people... !... else they are left for dead / alone almost and with uncaring / partnership penning them increasingly all the while ( is instantly nearer than you think it is once things switch off).

Isn't it about people developing people, not just machines... ?

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Fuck this was a good post. Right?

Keep it. Bookmark it. Happy to amend.

Better yet get in touch and let's work on (better people...) more often or as higher primary focus than only FOSS or STEM.

( yes even at the same time as whatever you're doing as long as you're not all-in machines ).

People for the priority (and then everything else) to help people finding their place and even free work !

Attentions are largely on machines - and that's largely perfectly playing into those pumping it and scraping all the new 'useful' discoveries. We're losing that way.

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@girlnamedwar @Em_Quark

Oh its absolutely par for the course on social media, and doubly so for the fediverse. I just tend to evaluate people regardless of the norm. If you do something I see as wrong, it is no less wrong when everyone else does it.

But again, in terms of "wrong" here its a small wrong at best, so hardly worth the extended conversation.

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@girlnamedwar @Em_Quark

Honestly I assumed the same, so I dont hold much animositoy to her for that alone. Its just not a good look given the respectful tone, and its particularly a bad look to try to slip in a last-word and then insta-block, like a more respectful approach is to just block. That said like I said im not really holding it against her too much, just not a good look.

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@randahl @stux

You could be right about that. But what about it. Being blocked on one server, in and of itself, does not disqualify you from membership in other servers.

Different servers have different rules, so just because you were in violation and kicked from one server in no way implies ineligibility for any other server.

So even if your completely correct in that assertion, so what, they arent doing anything wrong by having an account on a new server.

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@randahl

What, no it absolutely isnt... It is a requirement ONLY on mastodon.social. All other servers running mastodon have no such restriction.

This person is on mstdn.social (Stux's server) and they have no such obligation. It is perfectly acceptable and allowed to use undisclosed AI generated images on that server as far as I know.

If you doubt it just ask @stux as he will either tell you you are harassing a person that is working within the rules (in which case you might want to apologize) or he will tell you the person is indeed in violationa nd handle it. Either way if this person is using AI generated images or not that in and of itself is a vioaltion.

Now what would be more concerning is your accusation that their **posts** are AI generated and fake. But seeing as they have replied here in a way that doesnt seem like AI, that doesnt seem to be the case. Moreover it is problematic to make these statements to such a large follower base due to the tendency to dog-pile on a person who seems to otherwise be a real person, and even if you are legitimately right that they arent you should handle this with your system admin and the admin of the foreign server due to the potential harm you could cause if you are wrong, and the fact that you lack the tools to know if you are correct.

Just my two cents, I dont think you mean harm, but you should be aware of the very real potential for it.

@sibrosan

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@girlnamedwar @Em_Quark

Fair, just wanted some info so i could review it and consider your point. the fact that Varenka immediately blocked me for politely asking, and the OP did not says a hell of a lot too.

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