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@chris The pro-trumper doesnt have a choice, the boss controls their email, and their email. The boss can both 1) not pass on the request from musk at all and 2) block any outgoing emails to respond even if musk directly sent them an email somehow.

Again it works cause it is universal. Your boss in charge controls your email always.

@chris Huh, how ya figure. You said he wanted to fire anti-trump people. If the War department refuses to respond and the 50% of his supporters that are there are fired along with the 50% against him, and there is no war department left, how does that work in his favor?

@chris Which is exactly why the directives need to be department wide not to respond. If trump wants to fire them it would need to be the entire agency collectively pro and antitrump combined.

@pgcd

Simply false. Lightening rods prevent lightening. More of them prevent more of it. It is entirely preventable just like gun violence is preventable with proper investment in mental health infrastructure, education, and economy. And just as measles are preventable with vaccines.

@Impish4249@mastodon.social @AlexanderVI

@kevin

Agreed in an ideal world we would address lightening strikes (the bigger risk) first by investing in more lightening rods, then once that problem is under control we should work on reducing the even less common school shootings that occur....

Or we should just fix the very **common** real underlying issue, the lack of access to mental health and education, that way we can fix not just the problem with shootings, but the much more common and overall problem of violence and lunacy among the populace.

@priryo @j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

@priryo

Also to be clear neither lightening nor school shootings are unpreventable. Lightening can be prevented with lightening rods. Since lightening is x2 more common we should be investing in more lightening rods before spending money or more rare events, based on that logic. Personally I'm all for addressing the mental health issue as it will fix more problems than **just** school shootings.

@j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

@priryo

I've lived my whole life in the USA and never once been in or around a shooting, let alone a mass shooting Only time I ever experienced a mass shooting was in the Netherlands.

But yea, I totally agree, they are absolutely preventable, exceedingly rare, more rare than lightening strikes but preventable. I never said anything to suggest they are. IF the USA had even a fraction of the mental health access and education most of Europe has shootings would be nearly non existent. By all means we should get those things and end shootings.

That said, the point still stands, if you are living in fear of shootings when they are half as common as being struck by lightening, then your fear is directed in the wrong places.

@j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

@Nicovel0 @AlexanderVI

Huh? Who said anything like that? If your gonna try to be toxic at least try and be relevant to the convo, it works better.

@pgcd @Impish4249@mastodon.social @AlexanderVI

All of those examples are preventable, and when did I say they weren't or shouldn't be prevented. In fact it's so easy to prevent by simply having good access to mental health it is crazy we haven't bothered to prevent it and should.

What I pointed out is that if it is something you live in fear of, like being struck by lightening, then that is simply an irrational fear due to its extreme rarity.

@j_bertolotti @AlexanderVI

I didn't make anything happen, reality did that, I'm just pointing it out. And no, it isn't almost as common as being struck by lightening, not even close, lightening is 2x MORE common.

@Nicovel0 @AlexanderVI

And yes school shootings are absolutely preventable I agree. By having reasonable access to mental health it can be easily avoided and we absolutely should. I never said it shouldn't be avoided only that focusing on it as a point of fear, given its extreme rarity is silly

@Nicovel0 @AlexanderVI

When did I say anything about the mortality with regards to lightening. Read what I said before "calling bullshit". I compared being **struck** by lightening (since it's a well known extremely rare event). Said nothing about being killed by it

@Impish4249@mastodon.social

Absolutely, just as all kids should be taught proper gun handling and safety.

But in both cases neither child or parent should live in fear of lightening or school shootings as both are exceedingly rare.

@AlexanderVI

@AlexanderVI Your chance of getting struck by lightening in your life is x2 higher than your chance of dieing in a school shooting in your lifetime. No one normalized kids getting shot, it is such a rare event it has never been a "nornal" thing, tragic yes, but exceedingly rare with literally every other threat being bigger than it.

@KimPerales I think Marcotte insights are totally not at all fault. I think these reasons are what **many** women GOP voters will **State** is their reason. What Im saying is the vast majority of people will give some great sounding reason for being on either side, GOP or Democrat, but int he end, thats just them trying to find a reason for something they are already commited to for tribalistic reasons.

Most people lie to themselves about their motives to appear like good noble people, and this is what that looks like. In reality a great deal of the time the justification comes after the tribialistic commitment to the group.

Its not the reason, its the excuse, and we tell ourselves the lie just like we tell everyone else.

@freeschool Sadly the way the AP protocol is designed, and mastodon itself, there is no guaranteed way to determine if a server blocks you or not. The only way you can know is if the server publishes their block list which in most cases they do not, not even to their own users.

@KimPerales To be honest GOP women vote for the GOP for the same reason democrats vote for democrats... tribalism and nothing more. Their friends are GOP/Dems and they are too ashamed to be judged by their friends as lesser... thats it, its why 90% of people vote the way they do at all.

If that werent the case the GOP and democrats probably wouldnt act like raving lunatics all the time because they would feel some need to actually make sense.

@threalist

No, because that statement doesnt come from anything the media claimed, and frankly i avoid "the media" at all costs.

The conclusion comes from Musk and DOGE's own words, saying things that a first year programming student immediately identifies as incompetence in the programming language. For example when he remarked about 150 year old people getting SS, instantly any programmer in the language the system is written on knows that is the default value the programming language uses when a date isnt specified. So it indicates cases where no birthdate is int eh records. Despite this being very obvious to even mediocre coders apparently the entire doge team bubbled this up as a valid concern so much so that Musk felt compelled to announce it on national TV to anyone.

Trust me anyone who knows even the basics can immediately see for themselves the gross incompetence, no need for the media to do a damn thing on that one.

@davidaugust

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