🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@freemo @BlueDot @wild1145 @BobMastodon @oliphant
It's sad that when your instance grows, you need to deal with people who unable to do due diligence. Because they are ruining experience of YOUR instance users 🤦

@freemo

These dots connect in my observation over time.

cc: @jerry @paco

@freemo

And we're done.

@wild1145 @BobMastodon @oliphant

@BlueDot

You asked me if JoePie91 image posts of what I said were real. I said they were manipulated and showed you proof they were false. Then you said because I addressed CSAM rather than racism that "proves" to you im guilty.

Can you explain that to me first, then ill be happy to answer any questions you'd like to ask of me.

Note: we announced blocking tools specifically so can add more aggressive tiered blocking that is better than the way we do it now.

@wild1145 @BobMastodon @oliphant

@BlueDot

Note in my screen shots where I answered you you can clearly see hate speech is one of the rules we block for as well. So I offered you proof that debunked both claims of CSAM **and** racism, and despite that you ignored it.

Again, care to address why you are specifically spreading lies I showed you proof are incorrect and lies?

Address this and ill tell you every account thats an alt of mine you'd like to ask about.

@wild1145 @BobMastodon @oliphant

@freemo @wild1145 @wild1145 I wonder if people unwittingly join instances like that or mstdn.social, get bored by the weird performative echo chamber, then write off Mastodon and go back to Twitter or whatever.

@freemo are you sure it's worth the trouble and your nerves? these blocklists are their own demise after all. as you wrote, those instances tend to bleed users ;)

@wild1145

Have you considered instead of being lazy and trying to avoid moderating your server properly and literally admitting to refusing to do due diligence… maybe you should consider I dont know, moderating your server and if need be promoting enough moderators to do so? Crazy idea huh.

If you dont have time capacity or money to hire moderators then do a good enough job people are willing to volunteer their time because they believe in the community.

I am a horrible moderator because I dont have the time is pretty much your excuse here, and its a bad one.

@admin

@wild1145

My choice to use the list was based off months of reviewing the list and the way it was curated, and the fact it can’t be swayed by one or even two of the instances’s ban lists that contribute towards it.

Factually wrong. Each list contributes a vote to the final list, meaning every block list sways the final output.

The fact that the list of servers which constitute the list are themselves highly abusive and noted for such in some cases (such as mastodon.art being one of a small number of master lists) is exactly why it is abusive and negligent of you to support it. Any block list where mastodon.art doesnt just get a vote but is part of a hand selected small list of master lists which literally define the list… no sorry but that is absolute negligence on your part.

@admin

Where this has gained some degree of attention today for the #Universeodon (and by extension #MastodonAppUK folks)

I have made use, for a while now of the minimum block list provided by @oliphant - This list combines the public block lists of a number of mastodon instances including some that I personally have had previous issues with. However, the minimum list has proven to be almost always spot on when it comes to removing servers that are known to be problematic for a range of reasons.

A couple of weeks ago that list got imported here to Universeodon, and there were a small handful (5 maybe) servers that had some existing relationship which we severed as a result of the import, which was an intentional decision on my part.

The intention behind bringing the list in was to start to align our moderation with MastodonApp, but to also try to ensure we aren't reacting to reports constantly, and that we can prevent our community from having to see content that may be upsetting.

@wild1145 For reference and transparency, he posted this literally as a direct result of threads blowing up where it has effected his user base. In that and other threads users have all started coming forward to highlight the laziness and lack of due diligence in this moderators handling of moderation issues.

Here is the original link that prompted it, and since this several additional threads of people coming forward are blowing up:

https://mastodon.acm.org/@freemo/111908751487276074

@wild1145
In the thread that caused you to make this post there are literally people responding who are or were members of your server who are actively calling you out for you abusing your own users for criticizing you.

Its easy to get 0 users complaining when you block users from your server and refuse to respond to them anytime they criticize your choices.

You posted this because of a thread of your own users have come forward to call you out...

@wild1145

I mean, for starters I have an account there, so yea I know. Second all the people coming forward calling you out about your abusive moderation is another clue.

I am not talking out of my ass, everything I said I backed up with data (charts) and actual accounts from your users as they are coming forward.

Make up whatever excuses you want, the community is exposing you as we speak... Your user count speaks for itself.

@wild1145

Even if you plan to remove non-CSAM servers from the list after the fact, the damage is done. All those follows erased and needs to be re-formed inconveniencing hundreds of thousands of users and defaming servers all because your too lazy to do due diligence on your block list.

Yes my criticism is completely valid even if we accept your excuse on face valid, your choice was negligent and abusive to your own community and the wider fediverse community.

@BobMastodon @oliphant