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@grimalkina I often think of the line - purportedly from Brian Eno - that "the first Velvet Underground album only sold 10,000 copies, but everyone who bought it started a band." Citations are thin gruel in comparison, like being sampled.

How many projects or research careers did your work inspire? No idea how you'd measure that, though.

@FelisCatus @gerrymcgovern We don’t live on the scale of an old growth forest becoming an old growth forest either, so it’s a bit pointless to nitpick and quibble over when “renewable” doesn’t really mean anything for burning coal or old-growth forest.

Truth has many sides because... (audio version included)

In some ways it is.
In some ways it is not.
In some ways it is and it is not.
In some ways it is and it is indiscernible.
In some ways it is not and it is indiscernible.
In some ways it is and is not and it is indiscernible.

- Navigating Conflict with Kazu Haga using Jainism's perspective...
[S2 Ep7 @ 22.30mins]

podtail.nl/podcast/finding-our

ℹ️ indiscernible = difficult or impossible to perceive or discern (by one person especially in one moment)

What people see is not the only thing they get (many people act like life is very clearly WYSIWYG which is too simplified to be the truth...

What you see is not what you get so it's not "if I don't see it or feel it probably it's nothing / who cares / why care short term or long?" and that way literally ends up to where we are and kind of gives up the responsibility to others who want to sell it for much more and abuse it parasitically until all things die (instead of growing people AND planet).

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MORE ABOUT WHY THIS IS
MORE IMPORTANT IN TECH THAN IT FIRST LOOKS ⬇️
=====================

For people who care (and maybe those more machine-minded people / Techies) it's important to see the many sidedness of things, of people, subject matters. Because many feel left out. You might also feel like you found your home but you might be moving further away from people which always isn't great long-term.

It's not just this or that, or about "efficiency" which is often mentioned almost like a kind of perfection or Indiana Jones "Holy Grail" worth dying / letting people die for.
Because anyway in humanity imperfection is baked in. Better to use it instead of go heavy expecting tech to save things (and it already has so I suggest it simply has limits and you move on to human growth more often as the 'work' like a kind of social improvement / communication as normal therapy for the rest of things).
Do continue some of what you do but WITH more people please.

Many things have many attributes which mean many feelings and perspectives to the many who see it. And care for things quite valid either way. I'm not talking about silly things but really what people care about should be considered more of a priority in reasoning.

Then there is overall the general why, the aim or overall priority with extra things but it helps to see the basics first sometimes to decide if humans are to count in the world and have 'nicer' equations to run after more than being being cut out by binary 1 or 0 choices or narrowing comparisons unfairly just because of time or even feelings that people want to cut out.

People host many things that can seem a burden but labelled as value suddenly turns the equation into something more for everyone. It may have it's limits BUT less people in community = no community and people without community almost literally die (inside and out) so if we're all too much into Tech or 1-sided viewing of life like "job" and that's it for my responsibility then diversity can be better (in moderation but again it's definitely not just job in life or needs fighting back against those that want to steal our time and use us like batteries in mono-work)

Tech and science people seem to not understand this one-sidedness (based on my conversations) and tend to want to skip this caring (call it talking) and skip the priority of building people USING people themselves!

In that mini or macro society - we need better people - NOT same-same / shitty people with tech.

Allowing for more than one truth or way-of-life to be ok is very important and several variations simply act as perspective to pehaps aappier survival or natural suffering to life we must endure but could do more friendlier... to further more good stuff to happen too- instead of trying to pipe it in a narrow medium (like text) and expect 'efficiency' to feel ok.

We'll lose everything without others...

And text is ok by the way BUT WHEN you have lots of ways and people you let people interact with you so you or they don't lose the whole human touch which is why I mention being a bit stuck in the text comradeship - improving people or getting better as the fun / interaction practice (with what we love doing) is important...

I understand "no talking" type devs but society infatuated with that way and piping it through devices (and BigTech) while they and everyone else empties the eco-system, is no way of working (you will lose your machines AND ability with people and others losing their ability). It's like a super-power to keep the dust off to communicate and care and accept "imperfect humans".

Truth has many sides because...

In some ways it is.
In some ways it is not.
In some ways it is and it is not.
In some ways it is and it is indiscernible.
In some ways it is not and it is indiscernible.
In some ways it is and is not and it is indiscernible.

- Navigating Conflict with Kazu Haga using Jainism's perspective...
[S2 Ep7 @ 22.30mins]

podtail.nl/podcast/finding-our

ℹ️ indiscernible = difficult or impossible to perceive or discern

Also important because often what people see is not the only thing they get (many people act like life is very clearly WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get) so "if I don't see it or feel it probably it's nothing / who cares / why care short term or long?"

=====================
MORE ABOUT WHY THIS IS
MORE IMPORTANT THAN IT
LOOKS ⬇️
=====================

For people who care (and maybe those more machine-minded people / Techies) it's important to see the many sidedness of things, of people but also of subject matters.

It's not just this or that, or just about "efficiency" because in humanity imperfection is baked in.

Many things have many attributes which mean many feelings and perspectives to the many who see it. And care in different ways quite valid. I'm not talking about silly things but really like people care.

Then there is overall why, the aim or priority with extra things but it helps to see the basics first sometimes to decide if humans are to count in the world and have 'nicer' equations to run after more than being being cut out by binary 1 or 0 choices or narrowing comparisons unfairly just because of time or even feelings that people want to cut out.

People host many things that can seem a burden but labelled as value suddenly turns the equation into something more for everyone. It may have it's limits BUT less people in community = no community and people without community almost literally die (inside and out) so if we're all too much into Tech or 1-sided viewing of life like "job" and that's it for my responsibility then diversity can be better (in moderation but again it's definitely not just job in life or needs fighting back against those that want to steal our time and use us like batteries in mono-work)

Tech and science people seem to not understand this one-sidedness (based on my conversations) and tend to want to skip this caring (call it talking) and skip the priority of building people USING people themselves!

In that mini or macro society - we need better people - NOT same-same / shitty people with tech.

Allowing for more than one truth or way-of-life to be ok is very important and several variations simply act as perspective to pehaps aappier survival or natural suffering to life we must endure but could do more friendlier... to further more good stuff to happen too- instead of trying to pipe it in a narrow medium (like text) and expect 'efficiency' to feel ok. And text is ok by the way WHEN you have lots of ways and people don't lose the whole human touch which is why I mention - just whatever not improving people or getting better as the practice with what we love doing... Again I understand all heads don't and no talking devs but society infatuated with devices and playing with BigTech (while it empties the eco-system) is no way a working way (you will lose your machines AND ability with people and others losing their ability like a super-power to communicate or accept "imperfect humans")

Many-sidedness or "not 1 sidedness" is perhaps the best way to explain things to those that expect 1 answer per 1 question. Noooo it's not 1:1 always if doing with humans (as all is quite a lot about unless you lost sight of that)

It's "normal" or usual for all things to be "Difficult to perceive or discern as truth" and that's where time-investment is needed in people, in order not to lose it or head towards fascism (less caring hierarchical government 'taking care' of it's people using banks to financial force people to care using debt).

If all of us did a bit more caring we wouldn't fall so easily foul into other command-and-conquer people's hands.... (computers and science included in that).

So "Many-Sidedness" or "not only 1 sided" is perhaps the best way to remember and explain things to those that expect 1 answer per 1 question.

Noooo it's not 1:1 doing that with *humans* (quite a lot is about this allowing, unless you are loosing sight of that).


Mediums / Mentality is where grows

Truth has many sides because... (audio version included)

In some ways it is.
In some ways it is not.
In some ways it is and it is not.
In some ways it is and it is indiscernible.
In some ways it is not and it is indiscernible.
In some ways it is and is not and it is indiscernible.

- Navigating Conflict with Kazu Haga using Jainism's perspective...
[S2 Ep7 @ 22.30mins]

podtail.nl/podcast/finding-our

ℹ️ indiscernible = difficult or impossible to perceive or discern (by one person especially in one moment)

What people see is not the only thing they get (many people act like life is very clearly WYSIWYG which is too simplified to be the truth...

What you see is not what you get so it's not "if I don't see it or feel it probably it's nothing / who cares / why care short term or long?" and that way literally ends up to where we are and kind of gives up the responsibility to others who want to sell it for much more and abuse it parasitically until all things die (instead of growing people AND planet).

=====================
MORE ABOUT WHY THIS IS
MORE IMPORTANT IN TECH THAN IT FIRST LOOKS ⬇️
=====================

For people who care (and maybe those more machine-minded people / Techies) it's important to see the many sidedness of things, of people, subject matters. Because many feel left out. You might also feel like you found your home but you might be moving further away from people which always isn't great long-term.

It's not just this or that, or about "efficiency" which is often mentioned almost like a kind of perfection or Indiana Jones "Holy Grail" worth dying / letting people die for.
Because anyway in humanity imperfection is baked in. Better to use it instead of go heavy expecting tech to save things (and it already has so I suggest it simply has limits and you move on to human growth more often as the 'work' like a kind of social improvement / communication as normal therapy for the rest of things).
Do continue some of what you do but WITH more people please.

Many things have many attributes which mean many feelings and perspectives to the many who see it. And care for things quite valid either way. I'm not talking about silly things but really what people care about should be considered more of a priority in reasoning.

Then there is overall the general why, the aim or overall priority with extra things but it helps to see the basics first sometimes to decide if humans are to count in the world and have 'nicer' equations to run after more than being being cut out by binary 1 or 0 choices or narrowing comparisons unfairly just because of time or even feelings that people want to cut out.

People host many things that can seem a burden but labelled as value suddenly turns the equation into something more for everyone. It may have it's limits BUT less people in community = no community and people without community almost literally die (inside and out) so if we're all too much into Tech or 1-sided viewing of life like "job" and that's it for my responsibility then diversity can be better (in moderation but again it's definitely not just job in life or needs fighting back against those that want to steal our time and use us like batteries in mono-work)

Tech and science people seem to not understand this one-sidedness (based on my conversations) and tend to want to skip this caring (call it talking) and skip the priority of building people USING people themselves!

In that mini or macro society - we need better people - NOT same-same / shitty people with tech.

Allowing for more than one truth or way-of-life to be ok is very important and several variations simply act as perspective to pehaps aappier survival or natural suffering to life we must endure but could do more friendlier... to further more good stuff to happen too- instead of trying to pipe it in a narrow medium (like text) and expect 'efficiency' to feel ok.

We'll lose everything without others...

And text is ok by the way BUT WHEN you have lots of ways and people you let people interact with you so you or they don't lose the whole human touch which is why I mention being a bit stuck in the text comradeship - improving people or getting better as the fun / interaction practice (with what we love doing) is important...

I understand "no talking" type devs but society infatuated with that way and piping it through devices (and BigTech) while they and everyone else empties the eco-system, is no way of working (you will lose your machines AND ability with people and others losing their ability). It's like a super-power to keep the dust off to communicate and care and accept "imperfect humans".

Truth has many sides because...

In some ways it is.
In some ways it is not.
In some ways it is and it is not.
In some ways it is and it is indiscernible.
In some ways it is not and it is indiscernible.
In some ways it is and is not and it is indiscernible.

- Navigating Conflict with Kazu Haga using Jainism's perspective...
[S2 Ep7 @ 22.30mins]

podtail.nl/podcast/finding-our

ℹ️ indiscernible = difficult or impossible to perceive or discern

Also important because often what people see is not the only thing they get (many people act like life is very clearly WYSIWYG (What you see is what you get) so "if I don't see it or feel it probably it's nothing / who cares / why care short term or long?"

=====================
MORE ABOUT WHY THIS IS
MORE IMPORTANT THAN IT
LOOKS ⬇️
=====================

For people who care (and maybe those more machine-minded people / Techies) it's important to see the many sidedness of things, of people but also of subject matters.

It's not just this or that, or just about "efficiency" because in humanity imperfection is baked in.

Many things have many attributes which mean many feelings and perspectives to the many who see it. And care in different ways quite valid. I'm not talking about silly things but really like people care.

Then there is overall why, the aim or priority with extra things but it helps to see the basics first sometimes to decide if humans are to count in the world and have 'nicer' equations to run after more than being being cut out by binary 1 or 0 choices or narrowing comparisons unfairly just because of time or even feelings that people want to cut out.

People host many things that can seem a burden but labelled as value suddenly turns the equation into something more for everyone. It may have it's limits BUT less people in community = no community and people without community almost literally die (inside and out) so if we're all too much into Tech or 1-sided viewing of life like "job" and that's it for my responsibility then diversity can be better (in moderation but again it's definitely not just job in life or needs fighting back against those that want to steal our time and use us like batteries in mono-work)

Tech and science people seem to not understand this one-sidedness (based on my conversations) and tend to want to skip this caring (call it talking) and skip the priority of building people USING people themselves!

In that mini or macro society - we need better people - NOT same-same / shitty people with tech.

Allowing for more than one truth or way-of-life to be ok is very important and several variations simply act as perspective to pehaps aappier survival or natural suffering to life we must endure but could do more friendlier... to further more good stuff to happen too- instead of trying to pipe it in a narrow medium (like text) and expect 'efficiency' to feel ok. And text is ok by the way WHEN you have lots of ways and people don't lose the whole human touch which is why I mention - just whatever not improving people or getting better as the practice with what we love doing... Again I understand all heads don't and no talking devs but society infatuated with devices and playing with BigTech (while it empties the eco-system) is no way a working way (you will lose your machines AND ability with people and others losing their ability like a super-power to communicate or accept "imperfect humans")

Many-sidedness or "not 1 sidedness" is perhaps the best way to explain things to those that expect 1 answer per 1 question. Noooo it's not 1:1 always if doing with humans (as all is quite a lot about unless you lost sight of that)

It's "normal" or usual for all things to be "Difficult to perceive or discern as truth" and that's where time-investment is needed in people, in order not to lose it or head towards fascism (less caring hierarchical government 'taking care' of it's people using banks to financial force people to care using debt).

If all of us did a bit more caring we wouldn't fall so easily foul into other command-and-conquer people's hands.... (computers and science included in that).

So "Many-Sidedness" or "not only 1 sided" is perhaps the best way to remember and explain things to those that expect 1 answer per 1 question.

Noooo it's not 1:1 doing that with *humans* (quite a lot is about this allowing, unless you are loosing sight of that).


Mediums / Mentality is where grows

Ukrainians are Russian-ish ?... And so are many cultures just letting things slip by the minute avoiding all responsibility / personal conflict themselves... 

@synlogic It seems you deleted a post about Ukrainian's being similar to Russian's and a boycotting theme. About 1.5hours back from this post.

But I send reply now anyway as my own toot since it's gone as it had a good point not many might mention. So I'll take a few points and make it my own thread... (if you put the post back let me know and I'll add it there)

People are most measurably behind in the mind. And to say that Ukrainian's might be also, that can be hard for me to say, but apart from naturally being behind as humanity (or letting things slip in exchange for money, banks. gov etc) it's also that YES:

UKRAINIANS AND RUSSIAN MAY WELL BE SIMILAR AND THE SAME... (assimilated)

It's also a case of "one looks better that the other" in terms of oppressor and weaker person but on other terms there is a rolling history and "just another leader" timeline (like a boss in a company that suddenly comes in) and in this template anyone can come along and do similar things in the past (which quite all countries did or didn't know how to give power to it's people to conquer this major re-occurrence and only defended it's land to oppress the people... again)....

It's not easy either as anyone just coming into life has the previous rolling crap to deal with as a 'system' (way of cheating people or imposing an original idea ⬅️ many ways to see it but ultimately uncaring EVERYWHERE )

So like a leaning tree nobody want to straighten or hold up, it just keeps leaning towards the same things - so it's also made up of the same type of dynamics (largely people don't doing anything or not to the end to say it's unacceptable for any war or heavy extraction as cruelty and false freedoms- and with actually caring nothing can be built on top of that)

Ukrainians are Russian-ish... And so are many elsewhere - but you're right to point to language, habits, assimilating for so long next to each other...

Just people/humanity are very much behind and still letting things slip despite the lessons...

(and just for historical imagination without adding fire...)

Just imagine what might happen as examples and money / war orientated stuff...

example ➡️ ❓ Ukraine becomes a super power over time or instantly and then tries to take over Europe with all that money.

example ➡️ ❓ USA's money ruins Ukraine and it just becomes another crappy copy with the same high street we see everywhere
Culture is irrevocably eroded,
Americanism's are copied and then imposed. Already something everywhere as ultimatums almost.

example ➡️ ❓ Ukraine and Russia team up temporarily and already have skilled mercenaries going to Africa to extract big bounties there and pave the way for Western expansion (and agree to call off war for now and sort out Africa with their own mutual teams of specialists since Africa is a lesser / weaker team - and that's what the monopoly board is about - to conquer, extract - the weaker the better so why not divert attention for a bit and call it "ceasefire") 🌍

example ➡️ ❓ LOTS OF EXAMPLES. It's all a dirty business of extraction / prostitution unless your business become actually caring and resolving all past problems and letting the people have more power over governments.
ETC.

Ukrainians are Russian-ish ?...
Yes. And so are many cultures as a people and humanity very much behind - just letting things slip by the minute avoiding all responsibility / personal conflict themselves... which adds to all this immorality on a lower level or higher up...

Once you sell yourself only and don't aim for anything more, you leave yourself at the mercy that give "no mercy" and frankly don't care and won't until people do better to care daily together...

I have answers but who wants to try ? ❓

money and urgent-only people - not social 

It's that kind of money or urgent-only that is socially horrible for building anything -

I think I still try every day because it's the only real way humans are going to get out of every problem by practicing more than monetary transactions and crisis-only management (same thing predictably and even encouraging more of it) even when there is a a buttons a few steps to which switch the water off they keep bailing out only for more water to come it.

Just to slow down their processes for trouble-shooting to be allowed into the process circle is enough. It can also be a 'thinking outside the box' thing which state puts the perception of when most of it theory or low-level threats to train animals into things they can't do things...

better processes and circles of habits please 🔁 or just ask me if stuck...

of

Europeans!

When you use american online services you take profit away from EU services and financially support (mostly) corporate US instead.

*cough* en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_

You could also just finance the place you live in. Take a look at this glorious page with tons of EU substitutes. :blobhappy:

european-alternatives.eu

While you're at it, give them a follow! @european_alternatives

Have a great sunday. 😘

#iwantmycontinentback #motivation #europe #sunnyday #sunday #goforit #social

#Backup #Archive #Export ? ❓ #Help ? ❓ for #Mastodon :mastodon: 

People below attempting to do what Mastodon doesn't do.... VIEW BACKUPS! :blobrofl: who would want for such a thing... !
So anyway the makers of Mastodon didn't add a human readable export - lol ?!!). Valiant efforts below:

1/ @meowViewer = meowViewer
toot.cafe/@meowViewer

2/ bovine.social/mastodon/ using buffalo-components via npmjs.com/package/buffalo-comp) to create a viewable list from the outbox.json
* BUT NOT PICTURES *
(SOURCE = codeberg.org/helge/fediverse-p)

3/ Manually edit the ?
mastodon.online/@almodozo/1094
qoto.org/@freeschool/112877661

4/ A few or or Hugo / Static exporting ways
CHECK HASHTAGS ABOVE OR
@pfefferle 's plugin
wordpress.org/plugins/activity

<<< ADD TO THIS LIST PLEASE >>>

4/ You own instance + replacing posts file with new? (IS IT POSSIBLE?)

5/ .... ?

- or ?

❓ How to ? ❓

❗ Answer (in short) you can't take your data with you ! ❗

i am personally more in favor of a "social Web" than a "social network".

what i want to do is make it easier for anyone to make a website, and to manage that website.

i want those websites to be able to link to each other in well-defined and clearly-understood ways.

i want to make friends and express myself to the fullest, in varying contexts on various websites, without context collapse.

but it feels like #fediverse is more interested in replicating the "social network" paradigm.

30/30

Microsoft #Teams is actually pretty good as a team/channel/chat #collaborative tool..

Great... so long as you don't want to get anything *from* Teams to *outside* of Teams. Its like they intentionally went out of their way to lock everything IN, let nothing out. there is no export, no "save chat", no "send this chat to <list of apps>". You can #export a *single* msg to Outlook. That's it.

The only way that doesn't require a $tool or result in copy+paste or print2pdf hot garbage, is via Snip.

Your privacy is not a thing in and of itself, that you either have or don't. Privacy is your ability, and capacity, to choose for yourself what you share about yourself, and when, and with who. And the other word we have for that is "dignity".

Privacy is the agency you have over your dignity.

"A private social network" only makes sense in through this lens, of people wanting a social environment where they have agency over what they share, when, and with who.

It's a reasonable thing to want.

Hi wondering if anyone knows you made the Mastodon

- I'd like to ask if they could add pictures to the backup posts

- and paginated results rather than infinite scroll

OTHER EFFORTS
1/ bovine.social/mastodon
(No pics linked tho)

2/ @raymondcamden also attempted here for website:
raymondcamden.com/2024/07/04/b

3/ meow!
purr.neocities.org

Comments might interest... @Hejny qoto.org/@freeschool/113194907

To give people a chance is for you and others, not just who you are giving to

But often even harmless chance is not given over the internet... You can see people don't want to give much at all - even similar thoughts - this is a reflection of real life I suppose and what needs sorting. B allowing people and testing things long than half day patchy talk... things might take off!

With just a few days’ notice, Mozilla terminated my employment this month after leaving me hanging on leave without for several months. My discrimination case against them therefore enters a new phase after this wrongful termination.
mastodon.social/@stevetex/1127

is...

- Looking for love and play...

- Education and experience together.

What we're essentially all looking for is love or play, education and experience.

Seeking simple appreciation or acknowledgement of things and of each other - and not always the extremes needed at all.

Education and experience together. Healthy growing things (each other included).

Love means so many things for example, and can be shared for relative objects or art that create or hold joy for us and meaning.

"... it's "a political system in which the government is willing to exert violence to protect ownership claims to the receipt of rents" ".

- Daniel Lakeland @dlakelan

from post: mastodon.sdf.org/@dlakelan/113

(full text below just in case the post goes)

" I'm gonna make a much much less drastic claim. And that is, in a democratic society, a market for exchange with a medium of accounting will appear.

That's it. That's not capitalism. It took me nearly 50 years to understand and distinguish between the two because of all the propaganda. Capitalism isn't "selling things" it isn't "markets" it's "a political system in which the government is willing to exert violence to protect ownership claims to the receipt of rents" "

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