K‮ly‬e @khird@qoto.org

@freemo Well I guess moderating who can post to the group is better than no control. I see your point about federation too - but the flip side is that the group server is vulnerable to fediblocks, crashes, etc. which give it more failure modes than hashtags. I'm interested to see how it gets used!

@freemo True -- I think a sufficiently smart group bot could respond appropriately to the original message being deleted, but yeah you'd have to trust the infrastructure you're using, and that includes the groups server.

Okay, so as things stand now, let's say I want to have a "group discussion" with some other people, who may not all mutually follow one another. What's the advantage to having everyone follow @beekeeping@groups.qoto.org and mention it in messages, versus having everyone subscribe to #BeekeepingGroupQOTO and use that tag? I'm just struggling to see the use case for this service.

@freemo That makes sense. Would anything prevent a group account from copy-pasting the content of my DM into a fresh message with follower-only permissions (and maybe prefixing it with "@khird" to identify the original speaker)?

@freemo Yeah in retrospect I think it didn't take - the interface to edit a circle is a little wonky and I thought I had both you and him as members, but now it's just you showing up.

Ideally I ought to be able to direct message the group account, and it gets boosted followers-only (with a managed group allowing the group owner to approve followers), right? Otherwise we might as well not have groups and just use hashtags and hashtag-subscriptions to accomplish the same thing without the need for an extra server.

@freemo Just did.[3] Even if that works it's kind of useless because all my followers are going to see it anyway, right? Following someone pulls unlisted posts into the home timeline.

3: https://qoto.org/@khird/105115842444713408

@freemo I gave it a couple tries.[1][2] It doesn't seem to have come through on either a circle or a direct message. Is this the intended behaviour? It seems to kind of defeat the purpose if I can't message a group without also messaging all my followers.

1: https://qoto.org/@khird/105115795597140176
2: https://qoto.org/@khird/105115810100143758

@freemo @hansw Thanks! Now if only we could get an "inherit audience" option for replies, which retrieves the audience of the parent comment and bakes *that* in as the audience for the reply ;)

Right now followers-only is kind of crappy because if you make a followers-only post, by default my reply will be followers-only. So people who follow you but not me, or me but not you, get a fragmented conversation view.

@freemo @hansw Okay - so it sounds like the circle members get "baked in" at post time; the post doesn't just reference the circle - which may contain different members at lookup time from at post time. Am I interpreting this correctly?

@hansw @freemo Can I add/remove circle participants after sending a message to that circle, and, if so, would they gain/lose access to content that preceded their entry into the circle?

@freemo @design_RG

Pale Moon 28.14.0 Linux 64-bit

@freemo @design_RG

Rendering is broken for me since the update. Here's what that looks like on my end.

@freemo It's animated without any further action on my part, on both the web frontend under PM28 and Tusky.

@freemo @design_RG @rgx@muensterland.social

Ahh I see. "Trying" is a bit strong - I just didn't think to change the default.

After setting it to plain text: \(\frac{dy}{dx}\)

@freemo @design_RG @rgx@muensterland.social

Nope. I typed the backslashes; they just got stripped out somewhere along the line.

Trying again. \(\frac{dy}{dx}\)

@design_RG @freemo @rgx@muensterland.social

There's also a whole mess of CSP errors in the console related to MathJax.

Testing the LaTeX markup: \(\frac{dy}{dx}\)

@design_RG @freemo @rgx@muensterland.social

I'm seeing the same as Rob wrt bulleted lists and block quotes. Browser is Pale Moon 28.14.0 Linux.

In addition, if I use the quote button, the quoted toot appears above the compose window in a green theme that's quite difficult to read.

[QT: https://qoto.org/@design_RG/105102703219819287]

@2ck We did C for about five weeks, then the language became C++ with some university-specific extensions that made it more like the contract/specification programming model you get in Ada. Basically C was just introduced to show us how lucky we were to work in a language that takes care of those details for us.

@sgryphon Every user has a public RSS feed. "Subscribe" parses that feed and imports it into your timeline. "Follow" fetches the posts using the ActivityPub protocol instead.

If you subscribe to someone, it's invisible to everyone except you:
you will NOT see his follower-only posts
it will NOT increase his follower count or your follow count
he will NOT have to approve your request if his account is private.

A little while ago, QOTO was having a technical issue where following people on other instances was silently failing. Subscribing was handy in that circumstance for those who didn''t care about missing followers-only posts.

@Sphinx very true!

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