vnarek @vnarek@qoto.org
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Armenian, living in the Czech republic that wants to move to Sweden one day.
Joined May 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixmpoLpIthc
This is not arresting rioters anymore right? I would say this is a literal attack on free speech
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Yet somehow society expects us to feel respect and admiration for 'roidal savages such as these. No thanks
RT @BrutumF: Look at this cop forcing the weapon into the protester's hand to create cause.
https://twitter.com/roccostarr87/status/1267953507736473607
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Cory Doctorow, not only a great sci-fi writer but an important commentator. #xp #IT #cyberpunk #Culture
Short quote only -- see link below :
"In XKCD comic 1357, “Free Speech”, Randall Munroe offers a characteristically concise and snappy summary of one of the canonical arguments about free expression: “The right to free speech means the government can’t arrest you for what you say. It doesn’t mean anyone else has to listen to your bullshit, or host you while you share it…. If you’re yelled at… or get banned from an internet community your free speech rights aren’t being violated.”
I have a lot of sympathy for this argument! After all, what’s the alternative? That the government should order other people to host your objectionable speech? Surely there’s a free speech interest in not being compelled to publish things you disagree with. “Free expression” includes the right not to speak, and the right not to listen."
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Must-read by @doctorow about politics, the internet and action/inaction
https://locusmag.com/2020/01/cory-doctorow-inaction-is-a-form-of-action/
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Este va para @paula_ruiz . O eres antifascista o eres fascista. Quien mira para otro lado ante el fascismo, se convierte en cómplice de el, por ende es un fascista en potencia.
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English version of Lyudmila's toot -- which I FULLY agree with. Take Note Jeff.
"This goes to @paula_ruiz. You are either Anti-fascist or Fascist. Those who look to the side in face of Fascism convert into its accomplices, thereby becoming a potential Fascist."
Muchas gracias, Lyud!
Este va para @paula_ruiz . O eres antifascista o eres fascista. Quien mira para otro lado ante el fascismo, se convierte en cómplice de el, por end...
@freemo
I don't think this is going to be proposed. Even if it does then I don't see anything bad about it. Most likely they are going to implement some police accountability policies, which would benefit everyone.
We can do that in steps and discussion about police brutality would be less poisoned if both blacks, whites and others died at proportional rates. I know it sounds horrific, but it is still a step forward.
@moonman @LukeAlmighty
@moonman
Yeah I feel the same. Additionally, I think by addressing the issues BLM are speaking about we could potentially help all races. Solutions to these problems are not black centric.
I still feel with freemo about the unity. It would be much more effective if other races saw why BLM would be beneficial for them too.
@LukeAlmighty @freemo
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@freemo @vnarek @LukeAlmighty the entire point of black lives matter is that black lives specifically are treated like they matter less, and that is why any attempt to do what you're trying to do is missing the point. Also the people you're trying to appeal to don't care about abstract principles they care about things happening specifically to black people.
@freemo
That was more a response to @LukeAlmighty . Yeah, I understand. This is hard.
I think that black lives matter speaks more broadly about all systemic problems black people have.
There is some intersection with problems all races have, but they are still disproportionately targeted and they are a minority in this country so I would prefer to not poison their tags.
If you want to tackle the problem of police brutality what about #PoliceThePolice or something similar.
@freemo @LukeAlmighty
I think it's more strategically retarded to use All Lives Matter or similar tags, if you want your message to be heard. It looks like you are trying to downplay what happens to black people in your country.
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@OrganicNectar96@mstdn.social
If George Floyd didnt want to be killed then why did he put his neck under that cops knee huh?
@lordalveric Did you see the video? He was unarmed and died of suffocation when he was lying on the ground.
Why does the record matter if someone is unjustly killed? Additionally, this is not the first time something like that has happened. This demonstration/riot is against police brutality in general led by his name. Do you think that this cause is not worth it?
And I don't care if he was on duty. He killed that man and police must be accountable for their actions. Btw, police are a prime example of non-aggression principle violators.
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100% of american cops who have managed to keep their job for more than a year are bad people, there I said it.
Any cop who is a good person would have arrested dozen of their fellow cops by now for abuse of their position and likely gotten themselves fired long before a year had passed.
So when people say "not all cops are bad" my first instinct is, unless you were just hired a week ago, bullshit, your as bad as the rest of them.
@lordalveric Yes he is. He was choked to death for a non-violent crime by the police. Getting out of jail means he served his sentence and had a chance to start a new life. I think it is worth to do that for any person who was unjustly killed by the system without punishment for the killers.
@Napo
The video started when he was already outside with a weapon in his hand. Do you know what happened prior to that?
Again, I am saying it was justifyable to confuscate that man and if any other footage goes public of this man starting the fight I will gladly come on your side.
And please think twice before you say that someone is a nazi. You are helping real nazis push the narative that left is fakin nuts.
@freemo
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@Napo
I have not defended this specific behaviour, but talked in more general sense. If they attacked his property he has a right to defend himself. Its a shitty to attack his property, but when he started aiming with bow protesters had right to defend themselves. Overall it would be more productive to not destroy personal belongins of the people.
@freemo
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Armenian, living in the Czech republic that wants to move to Sweden one day.
Joined May 2020
