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One of the experiments my super-org is trying is Mendix https://www.mendix.com/, a low-code dev thing. I am admittedly biased because I don't fear code, which seems to be the audience they are aiming for. I like code, I love open source and see it as a tech-moral imperative, and I rejoice in the community made possible by open source workflows. Has anyone else out there rubbed shoulders with Low-Code solutions like Mendix? Is there any good take to help clear the bad smell I get from them?

Today for my Digital Education Minute I taught my kids about why passwords are a bad idea, and also the fallacy of Security By Obscurity, and showed them what an SSH key looks like. "That's how you do a password!"

@veer66 does NPM count as a single system? If not, I expect WordPress, no contest.

@urusan Thank for the take. I actually don't see types too much in the libraries I use, either (I read much of the code, and create my own libraries keeping with some of the community idioms). A great discussion of the types stuff (not strictly Clojure) is on this thread: https://clojureverse.org/t/dynamic-types-where-is-the-discussion/8968

But I concede that they are proven useful at scale. As far as this topic, though, the question is about the JVM and what it offers, which is entirely different from Java

@urusan being a Clojure programmer, I have a different perspective on type systems. But I recognize some utility (and much great tooling) to that end, too (assuming you are using Java on your JVM)

This man favors SQL! That said, flexible schema is a two-edged sword with NoSQL solutions. The advantage of loose schema, in my experience, is NOT that you don't have a schema (or you will never be able to find anything), but that you can extend that schema very easily. Research.
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RT @a4w_m6h
Having a flexible schema is not generally a *feature*
https://twitter.com/a4w_m6h/status/1540464318742937601

@FourOh-LLC I don't know that one, but it's probably pretty cool if it is like some of the tools I use in Clojure

@urusan Good points. I've dealt with apps in both flask and Django, and they have some definite benefits. I don't know their performance characteristics, though. That was something that inspired the questions: what pros does the JVM bring in uniquely?

@urusan Pardon my ignorance, but isn't this just what popular libs like Numpy, Pandas, and PyTorch are doing?

@urusan Excellent point, sharing with the other non-webdev business logic things. Come to think of it, I have used some of that (ie Mallet for text processing).

About the speed vs Python, though -- isn't that mostly a myth? Very rarely is python itself doing anything heavy. It just wraps the C code, right?

Weird stuff happens when you are trying to find the minimal fix for an old thing, knowing there is a better way but it would take a lot of time.

Thankfully, "me@gmail.com" is a valid username as just "me" so I didn't need to refactor my data structures or function.

Scratch that. If I have "gmail" twice in my authinfo it seems to always use the first one, regardless of who I've said the user should be.