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@urusan being a Clojure programmer, I have a different perspective on type systems. But I recognize some utility (and much great tooling) to that end, too (assuming you are using Java on your JVM)

This man favors SQL! That said, flexible schema is a two-edged sword with NoSQL solutions. The advantage of loose schema, in my experience, is NOT that you don't have a schema (or you will never be able to find anything), but that you can extend that schema very easily. Research.
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RT @a4w_m6h
Having a flexible schema is not generally a *feature*
https://twitter.com/a4w_m6h/status/1540464318742937601

@FourOh-LLC I don't know that one, but it's probably pretty cool if it is like some of the tools I use in Clojure

@urusan Good points. I've dealt with apps in both flask and Django, and they have some definite benefits. I don't know their performance characteristics, though. That was something that inspired the questions: what pros does the JVM bring in uniquely?

@urusan Pardon my ignorance, but isn't this just what popular libs like Numpy, Pandas, and PyTorch are doing?

@urusan Excellent point, sharing with the other non-webdev business logic things. Come to think of it, I have used some of that (ie Mallet for text processing).

About the speed vs Python, though -- isn't that mostly a myth? Very rarely is python itself doing anything heavy. It just wraps the C code, right?

Weird stuff happens when you are trying to find the minimal fix for an old thing, knowing there is a better way but it would take a lot of time.

Thankfully, "me@gmail.com" is a valid username as just "me" so I didn't need to refactor my data structures or function.

Scratch that. If I have "gmail" twice in my authinfo it seems to always use the first one, regardless of who I've said the user should be.

All this time I've made an awkward and cumbersome work-around for having multiple log-ins for the same smtp server. The missing fact was that I can have the same server specified multiple times in my .authinfo.gpg, and boom! No longer do I need to touch my /etc/hosts! Win for simplification!

I have a 50k char limit on my QOTO (Mastodon)
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RT @fndriven
Sorry, but thanks to social media we now have attention spans like Homer Simpson's Goldfish. TL;DR https://twitter.com/TwitterWrite/status/1539640956915290112
https://twitter.com/fndriven/status/1539690855702880256

I ask because I suspect there are some solid answers.

To all the JVM users out there, other than momentum/ecosystem, what is the primary elevator pitch for doing JVM-based webdev in 2022? What does the JVM give us compared to Node, PHP, or Python?

@veer66 wow! Someone's been busy!

@veer66 whoa! Cool!