arteteco @arteteco@qoto.org

@piponfishing@sunbeam.city Well, I don't see why not. Just give them a deep enough pot (I'd say at least 40cm) and tomatoes should be fine.

@imvectech Is this the content of the course you offer on your website, the 1 year one?

@piponfishing@sunbeam.city

Sorry for the very long replies, and just to make it clear: those are just ideas from an amateur, so do your researches and I'd love to have an exchange about it, as next year I'm going to do a urban farming course and I'm pretty nervous about it, need all the input I can =D

@piponfishing@sunbeam.city [Part 2]

Fertility: you may quickly find that the soil you use is getting poor after just one or two seasons. Many urban gardeners go for synthetic fertilizer but really, you may as well buy store veggies at that point. #wormcomposting is a brilliant solution, as you already thought, and I suggest to also ask neighbors and friends for their organic waste, maybe compensating with a dinner from time to time. It's a nice way to bond =)
Don't go for sustainability. Doesn't work here. You don't want systems that may go on indefinitely, you want to gather as much resources from the outside (other people waste) and convert it into useful things. This is way better than going self-sufficient or sustainable in urban areas, both for you, your production and the environment.

Mushrooms: for pleurotus main things are humidity and fae (fresh air exchange). You can start by buying the pre-inoculated small strawbales, and go on from there. You can have them in deep shade, a simple compact fluorescent light for 3-4 hours a day is enough to trigger the growth (they will be weaker in vitamin D and other nutrients, but it's a good tradeoff). They surely require more effort and knowledge, but boy they are fun.

Last thing, maybe consider some guerrilla gardening. If there are some abandoned place, just go and plant a fruit tree, and some other low maintenance stuff, and go collect them when the season is there. In open land there is almost no work involved, just some pruning from time to time.

@piponfishing@sunbeam.city [Part 1]

Light: As a rule of thumb you don't want stuff for carbs (fruits or roots), as they need a lot of light for the synthesis. Go for the leaves. Beside (some) herbs, spinach, kale, lettuce, good king henry, onion (if you eat the leaves), chard (beta vulgaris), they'll all do fine,even if growing a bit slower than if exposed to more sun.
I don't have any experience with artificial light,sorry, I usually do stuff in the south of Europe where is not a main issue.

Space: you can optimize it while going upwards, like in vertical gardening (bottles tower, barrel, hanging garden, climbing vines...).
You may find that the major limiting factor here is roots: you want stuff that has shallow roots so you can stack them, like strawberry or lettuce, not deep roots like tomatoes or radish. Also try to go for as less maintenance as possible, automating the irrigation or such. Do you have a balcony or some outdoor space at all?

@rustyswarf that's just a part of all the #electronics in my garage... I don't know what to do with them, but can't throw them. Any idea?

Right now all this complicated, carbon intense pieces of engineering that were cutting the edge of technology not long ago are used for stuff like holding my #coffee and support my #wormcomposting barrel, but I feel is not right. This lack of permanence in electronic drives me crazy =(

https://qoto.org/media/bNyIxD2EKt67Yun4L8Y

https://qoto.org/media/eoGlzeAo-TodLeFhnm4

https://qoto.org/media/JX2ceu1LsCEAVnneFNo

@piponfishing@sunbeam.city
Hi, I do #vermicomposting (home scale for me and other people) and occasionally grow #mushrooms (pleurotus) and I've grown #psilocybe (I don't anymore but I have a fair experience).
I like to cultivate in small areas, especially using wastes to improve fertility.
I don't know much about your conditions, sorry, but if you already know what to grow and want to process it I may be of help (bachelor in medical plants)

Not sure I can teach you anything, but if you want to have a second opinion or discuss some project please shoot away =)

@mkwadee The dead fish picture is creepy as hell... all so beautiful!

@rustyswarf I hope I understood your question, the matter of permanence is close to my heart, so post more if you have insights about it =)

@rustyswarf I see now. Well, it depends... when I do land/gardens I usually design with a 15-30 years evolution in mind and system should go on indefinitely (provided some maintenance).

That is not always the way to go though. For example, in the tropics I found it better to build your hut in bamboo, live in it for a few years, bamboo will rot (usually after 3-6 years) and just build another one. Long lasting structures are not the good solution there.

About systems they are difficult to frame because they change, and if you forget about the ecological succession you'll end up making a lot of effort to crystallize a picture of an ecosystem which is rather difficult to keep (main problem with restoration project, IMHO).

In general though I agree that the latest electronic technology put us in a uncomfortable quick turnover of products. I try to recycle and reuse as much as possible, and I still have tons of computers that are not of any use now, but I can't get to throw them...

@alexduf what phone is this?

@rustyswarf what kind of things are thinking about?

"You wouldn't believe it, a lot of stuff just came out from the mulch!"
"Woah, nice, I'll come to give a look"

I'm pretty sure there used to be a path below all this pumpkins...

@squeakypancakes A second reminder that CS is a for profit corporation that tracks its users.
Check out bewelcome.org and trustroots.org, open sourced, non-profit and community driven =)

@squeakypancakes Ahh, too bad. What happened?