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If you are outdoors in a cold polar region during the day what will keep you warmer?

Details: The color is on the outside, the inside you can assume is a neutral gray for simplicity.

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@freemo Probably black clothes, but it depends essentially on the albedo of the material they are made off.

@mc well white and black are similar to albedo. White obviously reflects incident light and black absorbs it. If you want the answer I can DM it to you so as not to ruin the vote.

@mc your comment is fine (though answers are best CW'ed is all). I just know the actual answer so if i reply id DM it so i dont give away the answer and prevent discussion.

@freemo I want to say black because it absorbs light but polar bears are white and they seem like they know what they're doing.

@valleyforge Polar bears are actually way more complex than it appears. Their skin is black and their fur is white. Their fur acts like little fiber optic cables that channel light from the outside down to their skin where they warm up. It is actually quite brilliant design on the part of god/evolution/zeus.

@valleyforge Polar bear's skin attached.

But yea the polar bears black/white combo might actually be a clue for you if you think it through.

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@freemo

White clothes are better camouflage in a snowy environment. Getting killed by a polar bear would cause your body temperature to drop to ambient; thus white clothes are an advantage for staying warm.

@valleyforge

@freemo @valleyforge it was a person I know personally. Stop giving credit to those "god" or whatever. His name is Ivo Balboni, he lives in Cesena (Italy)

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@freemo

Black absorbs more EM than white, but black objects also radiate more. All matter above 0 degrees K radiate EM known as "black body radiation". Black objects radiate that energy more quickly than white objects, so they get cold more quickly.

"During the day in a polar region", means that in the dead of winter it's dark out, even at noon. (The question didn't specify the season.) If the sun is below the horizon or very low in the sky (i.e., traveling through a lot of atmosphere), the solar EM wouldn't be much, in which case the black would radiate more energy than the white, and the inside would get colder.

Also, even if there is some sun, the surface of the coat is on the outside of the insulation, so any heat that it absorbs would quickly radiate back out into the air before that heat could penetrate the insulation to help warm you up.

I didn't look any of this up, it all from memory so I can't guarantee it's accuracy.

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@Pat That last sentence looked a bit off to me. Isn't it "I didn't look any of this up, it's all from memory so I can't guarantee its accuracy."?

@freemo

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@trinsec @freemo

Yeah, I kind of scrambled my plurals/possessives on the "it"s.

Dyslexia seems to be acting up at the moment for some reason, I 'm making all kinds mistakes in my writing...

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@freemo You already have the excuse that you're being you. :P

@Pat

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@freemo @trinsec

A lot people have undiagnosed dyslexia. I've noticed that you often confuse things like "your" and "you're". You may have it and not know it.

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@Pat

I use your by default mostly because I type to fast and dont review what I write. Couple that with the fact that i got into the habit by typing on my phone where an apostrophe is a bit tedious. That particular error, as most of my errors, are largely due to not caring and typing as fast as I can since i dont find the medium to be critical for correctness.

My formal writeups, as well as my blogs, tend to have very few errors since I proof read them.

That said my natural rate of errors has been unusually high the last 2 years since my injury and COVID largely due to the extremely high levels of stress I've been under which seems to effect the prevelance.

@trinsec

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@freemo @Pat

Oh man...

Ok the real challenge here is to find a sentence without mistakes. ;)

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@trinsec

hahaha valid. Honestly if i could actually edit posts on here there would be a lot fewer of them. At least on matrix i will occasionally correct my mistakes. Here I see them but usually after i already posted and only once i reread it when going over replies.

@Pat

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@freemo I do tend to delete and redraft in the first minute or so, and if nobody's replied yet. Otherwise it is a 'oh shit, oh well, move on, next time better'.

@Pat

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@trinsec

I used to do that but with 20K some followers it pissed off a lot of people, way more than just keeping the typos.

@Pat

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@freemo Heh... valid point.
That said, I tend to take like 10 minutes per email just to make sure my answer makes total sense and contains no mistakes. I tend to do the same for my initial toots often as well.

@Pat

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@trinsec

If i actually paid that much attention to my toots I probably wouldnt toot very often. Then you would cry all the time and I dont want to make you cry.

@Pat

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@freemo Funny.. I cry all the time you do post! :P

@Pat

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@trinsec

Thats ok, I'm usually crying when I post too, as well as any other time :)

@Pat

@trinsec @freemo

When spell-checkers came out, it was a godsend for me. If I left my spelling mistakes in my writing, you wouldn't be able to make out half of what I was saying, it's so bad.

A lot times I can't find the words in the dictionary because I can't spell it close enough to find it. I use Google a lot now because they have AI/phonetics algorhtms.

(I left that last word misspelled, just so you could see how I tried to spell it unassisted so you get a feel what I face with this issue. It's a real pain.)

@Pat

I dont use spellcheckers. I dont need that kind of negativity in my life!

@trinsec

@freemo @Pat Heh, and I usually turn off spellcheckers... because I absolutely hate the squigly red lines! They actually distract me!

I'm still trying to figure out where I can turn it off in outlook.office.com because it's English-oriented and my conversation language is Dutch.

I guess I'm teaching that stupid dictionary a lot of Dutch words now... :P

@trinsec

50% of the time my spelling is such a bastardization the spell checker has no idea what I am trying to say. the other half of the time my vocabulary is so advanced it doesnt even know the word I am trying to say.

@Pat

@freemo To be fair, you probably also don't know that word you're trying to say. ;)

@Pat

@trinsec I know everyword I am trying to say, and spell it perfectly. Its not my fault that the dictionary can't keep up with the latest spellings!

@freemo @trinsec

>the other half of the time my vocabulary is so advanced it doesnt even know the word I am trying to say.

I've wasted a lot of time trying to track down the "correct" spelling of a work, only to find that I had it right all along and the spell-checker just didn't know it.

@Pat

yea oddly enough some of the more advanced words I get right more often than the simpler ones.

@trinsec

@freemo @trinsec

Is that everyone gets pissed off at me when I try to correct their grammar?

@Pat I appreciate the correction if it's informative. I mean, how else are you gonna learn?

But I know people who absolutely hate to be corrected in any way possible. Can't always win, I suppose.

@freemo

@trinsec

I hate to be corrected. If I am corrected I cant say I'm always right anymore. Why would anyone want to be wrong!

@Pat

@Pat

That would still make me right only 50% of the time. If I am never corrected then I'm right 100% of the time.

@trinsec

@Pat You don't get his thinking pattern... he just wasn't wrong to begin with. ;)

@freemo

@trinsec

I'm starting to think you might be the smartest person on this server :)

@Pat

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