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@Chrisleon27

I am, yes. We dont use liquid oxygen in scuba. We use pressurized gases, including oxygen, up to about 4000 psi max.

@Chrisleon27
Huh?

The unabridged version

@funny@funny@groups.qoto.org

I find that while the Republicans usually try to pretend the problems they create arent problems at all (its a feature not a bug!) That the democrats on the other hand try to blame everything on someone else, usually the republicans.

#uspol

@Diptchip

Hahah facts

@calligraphy

With a bit of practice im slowly getting back up to speed...

#DouglasAdams #Calligraphy #Copperplate #Handwriting #writing @calligraphy

@khird

The long-s is related to but distinct from the Eszett. In english the long-s is used and is the same in every way other than form to a normal s. However according to the rules a double s would take a long-s form followed by a round s (normal s). These two together look like the eszett and is in fact where the eszett came from, thus why its a double-s.

@calligraphy

@NEETzsche

I could, but I wont.

@icedquinn @mkljczk @ducheng @Pat @torresjrjr

@NEETzsche

After your last multi-day tantrum I really dont put much stock in your ability to objectively evaluate much of anything.

@icedquinn @mkljczk @ducheng @Pat @torresjrjr

@NEETzsche

> the issue is that people are having the expectation that they trust a body of institutions that are notoriously untrustworthy imposed upon them by pain of the destruction of their lives.

Yea largely not true. The academic institutions arent untrustworthy, its the people (media and general public) misinterpreting the studies that is the issue. Everytime someone goes on about this shit and how untrustworthy they are every time its just them completely misunderstanding the material or its purpose.

Its easy to think science is failing when you cant even understand science to begin with.

@icedquinn @mkljczk @ducheng @Pat @torresjrjr

@Pat

Always a productive chat :)

@torresjrjr @NEETzsche @mkljczk @ducheng

@Pat

agree on all those points.

@torresjrjr @NEETzsche @mkljczk @ducheng

@NEETzsche

You are right, you need to read the content and understand it and be trained as a scientist to understand it.

Reading abstracts or otherwise being untrained wont help you. Thats my point, the journals are fine, they arent trash, neither are the studies. What is trash is how those studies are abused and misrepresented to sell an agenda.

@icedquinn @mkljczk @ducheng @Pat @torresjrjr

@Pat

I dont have the study nearby, on my phone

Yes i do agree that it transmits aggressively through aerosol. Normal breathing through the nose is likely not a danger, but even talking softly at close distance is.

The point is the virus does not have anything new in later variants allowing it to survive outside droplets nor is it truly airborne. The viral load is just so high that even small droplets can infect.

It is not like smoke though which is truly airborne, the half life on droplets are about an hour, smoke would last much longer.

@torresjrjr @NEETzsche @mkljczk @ducheng

@Pat

> I remember reading that first study you cited (Jayaweera, et al., 2020 Jun 13), and I've used it in helping to form my understanding. It said, "In general, infected people spread viral particles whenever they talk, breathe, cough, or sneeze."

> Breathe.

Read the data not the commentary. Normal breathing was shown in their study to produce virtually no aerosol. Any commentary about it is moot against the data.

> I don't like to use the words "aerosol" and "droplet" because, as that study said, those terms mean different things to different people. When an infected person breathes they shed virus within sub-micron particles. Period.

False the study clearly shows in its data that normal breathing produces virtually no aeresol (<5um) or droplet (>5um), period!

> That second study (Morawska L, Cao J. 2020 Apr) which studied COVID transmisability and made a claim about viability in particles with little or no H2O, that was studying pre-delta variants.

There is no reason to think that all of a sudden post-delta variants can magically exist outside of a droplet. The only difference of consequence is the density of the virus is much much higher.

> As I said, the newer variants are better at surviving in the air, that's why the R0 is so high, why people who wear cloth masks still get sick and transmit. It's airborne.

The new variants only produce many more viron per droplet, they dont do anything to be more airborne other than through this mechanism. It does of course mean it takes far less exposure to catch the virus, but it doesnt mean the viruses are suddenly existing outside of droplets..

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@paprika

Its not like facebook is much better

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