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@Itchy Not accepting politicians lieing to us is **exactly** why i cant vote blue (or red).. that and Blue's support of genocide and Harris' abuse of trans-people.

If one side actually told the truth you might have a point...

@rchusid

Its worse than that, though those points are true. Harris has a history of actively promoting hate against trans people, specifically her spearheading the SESTA act which explicitly denies access to hormones to any trans people under arrest. She and Trump never had any business being leaders to begin with. Third party was **always** the only real ethical choice this election.

@rchusid

Its worse than that, though those points are true. Harris has a history of actively promoting hate against trans people, specifically her spearheading the SESTA act which explicitly denies access to hormones to any trans people under arrest. She and Trump never had any business being leaders to begin with. Third party was **always** the only real ethical choice this election.

Between Trump's treatment of women and insults to other groups, and Harris' unwillingness to separate herself from Biden's policies (including genocide), it continues to feel like both candidates are trying to lose.

apnews.com/article/trump-women

@aosinski You can find them at any online place (legitimate) where you an place bets on the outcome of the election. For example Robinhood app is one that lets you place such bets.

As of a few days ago the odds for a Harris win was 43% and Trump 57%.

LOL forget about polls, you want to know the chance to win look at the odds vegas is giving on the election. I dont want to see Trump be president but as of yesterday Trump was odds to favorite by a large margin. So regardless of who you may like, i hope you are ready for the civil unrest that is coming either way...

@realcaseyrollins

:)

Just to be clear I never claimed to be atheist. I never claimed my religious descriptive title at all. Most do assume I am atheist though.

@realcaseyrollins

See now if this is how they tried to sell christianity to me, with a hefty dose of "petit tits" you might have won me over. I can tell ya its a way better advertisement than the wine!

@KimPerales

If one thing is undoubtable its the fact that everyone is playing dirty now in politics, on both sides.

I miss the days when politics actually had some sense of sanity to it, even if it was just a little bit.

@bibliolater If you want to follow the chat among the devs/admins go to the QOTO Lobby, the two devs i assigned to work on this today are actively chatting about the issues and fixes and doing the work now. Hopefully should roll out the last (I hope) fixes in a day or two

@chris

I suspect what you said is true, we all know how the other side loves to warp what was said (and trump has said plenty of legit stupid shit)... That said might i suggest you provide a direct quote to prove you point. It would be much more impactful than simply saying it is so.

@lxo

Thanks for linking me in. I work with LLMs and AI tech at a low level (The company I founded is building a next-gen llm among other AI tools). So I know the internals of an LLM and how they work intimately. I read your post but not the whole thread yet, im a bit busy trying to run that company (Im founder and CTO so a lot is on my shoulders) so forgive me for not reading the entire thread. But, what questions can I help answer directly? We understand how LLMs actually quite well so im confused by what your asking, what is it you want to understand that you think we dont currently?

I've been tracking the OSI open-source AI discussion. I havent seen anything too meaningful come out of that discussion but I hope it will. But I can say this, many open source AI's will link to the corpus of training data used. What is more opaque is how it was trained using that data rather than the data itself. The final code is of course open source, but the meta code, the code that tells the system how to train is not. That is, however where the magic happens, more so than in the training data itself in some ways.

That said I do agree with the OP that if you want a truely good open source definition of AI that is encompassing of full replication you need to open up three things:

1) the training data
2) the training code
3) the running code (the code for running the model after trained).

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any questions.

@chaz

@lxo

Thanks for linking me in. I work with LLMs and AI tech at a low level (The company I founded is building a next-gen llm among other AI tools). So I know the internals of an LLM and how they work intimately. I read your post but not the whole thread yet, im a bit busy trying to run that company (Im founder and CTO so a lot is on my shoulders) so forgive me for not reading the entire thread. But, what questions can I help answer directly? We understand how LLMs actually quite well so im confused by what your asking, what is it you want to understand that you think we dont currently?

I've been tracking the OSI open-source AI discussion. I havent seen anything too meaningful come out of that discussion but I hope it will. But I can say this, many open source AI's will link to the corpus of training data used. What is more opaque is how it was trained using that data rather than the data itself. The final code is of course open source, but the meta code, the code that tells the system how to train is not. That is, however where the magic happens, more so than in the training data itself in some ways.

That said I do agree with the OP that if you want a truely good open source definition of AI that is encompassing of full replication you need to open up three things:

1) the training data
2) the training code
3) the running code (the code for running the model after trained).

Hope that helps, let me know if you have any questions.

@chaz

@lucifargundam Just FYI I got 2 of our guys working on the few remaining problems you pointed out. Should be a day or two. If you want to follow you can at the QOTO Lobby

@sergeant Check out our QOTO Loby room. I have 2 people on some of the remaining issues now, feel free to add anything we missed there.

@weston yes should be. every comment has an explicit parent.

@weston

Oh its totally a client UX thing. Many clients flatten responses. The threading is preserved in the JSON side of things. But many clients dont render the threading.

You can see a "hint" at the threading by checking who is tagged in the reply list usually or by clicking on a message to expand its thread and only its thread.

@weston Generally you reply to the main post.. there is no "last" in any meaningful way because posts in mastodon are threaded, so that wouldnt make any sense anyway.

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