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Google YouTube paying? + Mastodon example (not encouraging using alt links) + "support protocols, not platforms" <---- like it 

@bloodaxe You know I'm much more for the paying nowadays and less resistance... rather than stealing / pirating / wanting for free...

But because it's *Google* YouTube having so much data already, it seems paying them doubly worse even with those mini ethics (they took down sign of "Don't be evil" so it's quite clear it more business than Fediverse type small/sharing business).

So I'd have to say no to paying them (doesn't progress our position and measurably goes backwards) but do pay the individual channels you love for example...

And I'm happy to hear more about your way as often I've realised I could be more flexible or mix both worlds rather than strictly one of ethics / not paying etc.

I guess not letting them close people in is my focus, since being able to predict data and push prices up comes from knowing data and people's next moves.

--- Mastodon / Eugen example ----
I've been disillusioned (or done that to myself) since some developers and admin actually don't want to recommend their users / community to use alternatives while they develop things similar lol ! (Like Mastodon founder Eugen said to me he didn't see why he should recommend any using alternative YouTube links of which millions are sent out daily to everyone's expense / reducing our causes / feeding them etc! (It's also able to track Fediverse through that I think)... so anyway Eugen not seeing potential to use similar open-source or Invidious also seems a worry as "we should" be UNITING ALL SOFTWARE if it is similar minded - so maybe not tomorrow he add small option in Mastodon to auto-redirect / use Invidious link, but one day @Gargron@mastodon.social⠀⠀

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So what chance we have I ask the world with an almost-dead looking-into-space bewildered smile!

"support protocols, not platforms" <---- like it

No-Ads Youtube! 

Ad-free / no tracking Youtube!

YouTube without the tracking and adverts using Invidious !

invidious.privacyredirect.com

Ad-free / no tracking Youtube worldwide !

redirect.invidious.io/

Use alternatives that filter the adverts and bad code. Also

= filters

Invidious = from :fediverse:

Browser Tracking Cookies / Site "Privacy" = Data snooping / siphoning / spying... 

(Text from picture says:)

"WE CARE... ABOUT YOUR PRIVACY
(MEANS FEED US YOUR DATA!)"

2 WebSites sharing me with 200+ companies

44 PARTNERS HERE
+ 183 PARTNERS THERE
FUCK ME, IS EVERYONE
FUCKING ME FOR MY DATA?
AND MY WHOLE LIFE BEING "OPEN SOURCED"?

WebSites
"Partners" Our

COOKIE MONSTERS from the WEBSITES and BROWSERS!

BEST COOKIE ADD-ON / EXTN ?

♥ ☼ Human Intelligence ☼
+ Emotional Intelligence = 🐝 Hive Mind > 🐝🐝🐝

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hive_min ///

Towards Collective Consciousness & Collective Intelligence ☼

🐝🐝🐝
rather than leaning on

@degrowthuk Thanks for reply. Bit short which is basically why this wouldn't work at this depth. Getting real together mean more depth,

...And as reply not detailed or personal enough.

You could answer each point or question mark [?] as you go along these few days with 1 toot whenever you feel... but what can I say this is getting too real and I wouldn't even slate you for it - just average.

☑️ You replied
❓ Not to everything...

The last toot also make sense but is far too much like you think they care [and without being negative about that and not negative about them].

and who would be the influencers? Do they really exist or they too just follow job?

Yes do let me know if you try answering more (increment) and FAQ is good idea which I think this practice in replying would feed into nicely / prepares FAQ.

Even with report or even if you have undoubted proof and got you way with many things, still wouldn't work - you're going to basically need more communication between the people and to influence themselves.

This might take you 'therapy' type levels since people for a generation or two have been borderline ignorant, happy for capitalism / tricking themselves to get out of poverty or farming potatoes or whatever etc, but jumped into worse. Not sure what "influencers" uyou mean and if they even exist...

People just want to get paid!
Let me know if you can string a few more sentences / say if you agree or disagrer and we'll call it done...

🏆 I challenge you a;sp to record an audio summary of report and link to it on you page or send using more privacy-conscious site bin.dembased.xyz/ (just for me or masses interested, without uploading on Fediverse), That site can play audio from there too be deleted anytime like after a week.

Honestly explain the report and I'll give you feedback on the audio or even edit it with permission for a better /' shorter thing all privacy minded (I've done lots before).

Like others you're going to have to trust... in yourself mostly and really say it!.

Similar passionate people might block each other naturally like magnets of the same polar direction...

It takes for one to change / redirect polarity a bit for things to come fill circle around a bit better and not clash as much.

My show (culturewar.radio) is about overcoming this by rebuilding a shared understanding and community via regular conversations and the application of #LiberalValues. Please jump on for a few minutes. Sundays, 9pm central till midnight.

At a personal level, maybe using algo-driven & ad-supported social media seems fine. That's really what most media is. Radio & TV have always done this, deciding what comes next. Most streaming options will auto play something now too. Fine.

The problem is at the collective level. A world where a few corporations have so much control over what everyone pays attention to is not a healthy society. It's bad for democracy. Breaking this cycle is why the #fediverse matters. Here, we decide together.

@degrowthuk A quick-look opinion after reading a bit what is there (so help me if I'm wrong):

█ 1 █ The main details of your alternative / the alternative is actually inside a PDF doc, which is down the page a bit as a link?
► (true / false)

That is the #1 thing at the moment. Problematic if true as I and other people *probably* went to the site in first place expecting to see that info but have to actually find a link down the page within that site and first download it, open it in external reader and then read more (and then come back to site) - so before it's even clear of the details, some extra finding work?!

You might name things a bit but if really it's mostly in PDF and not much of a decent summary on front page, then that's measurably too shallow and the PDF too deep / time-consuming / hidden almost.

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█ THE REST BELOW IS MIXED RANT BUT shorter version is the first lines of each paragraph
...and obviously we're here to talk / solve things so will not be perfect. █

█ Questions are marked with ? which you reply please - all of them. CTRL-F to find and answered in reply. █
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█ 2 █ Is this whole idea something more than just pointing to the idea?

So it's not really action but more pointing to what Gov should / could do?

I have my mixed opinion but I can't escape "it's like saying to crocodiles don't eat meat any more" (don't eat us for a living professionally) or "don't abuse us and get paid, take much less money and risk the economy in the name of equality or X,Y, Z which has been said to you before" ?
...hmm - why should they or what makes you think they would? (Would you give up power as a parent or whatever authority, they need to maintain regardless else start to losei t all since their whole base is relying on these things - it's not a fucking accident, it's by design!).

And certainly without force (or without some leverage or threat (like reducing / obstructing profits / withdrawing our labor etc / historically proven examples) it's hardly logical to accept advice... and even then they might make things worse / have done so to tighten things stronger. (So they are not the right people to talk to at all most of the time since it's their job to rule us).

❓ Why should those that join stop doing x,y,z when those most people clearly don't believe / already didn't want / already signed up to something else?

Most do things for money (as any other job sometimes)... so needs more than just saying "here's a good policy they could take on"....

Those professionally paid people are in a structure that reinforces loyalty in that structure/ pays for professional silence as contract / lying work / etc etc (ok not everyone but I'm trying to say "they or those above them have it 'very locked' and systematically near-0 chance of change, not 0% chance but not even 10% perhaps unless people literally risk something like rocking the whole boat - unfortunately as that may be, that's real - as unions, federations or coalitions have proven)

► (agree / disagree mostly to the above?)

What makes you think your "policy" is suddenly going to be actually chosen or even eventually (*unless* it giving them similar results of controlled crisis / devaluation more leverage etc?) ! ?

█ 2A █ What it is you want from people?

Can you list it... here is some of it I assume (perhaps incorrectly):

▲- you want people to endorse / say they support your plan... (there is a web page with a form they fill in / you want to use that as list of testimony / add credit to this manifesto / accumulate mass)
▲ - to get maybe a bit of talk here (but not much more?)
▲- not sure what else, please add

Again the "asking a crocodile" or the professional state-backed people is a little naive it seems (historically speaking) though don't question your heart, just they are not really the ones to change as much as we are... it's perhaps the prey as well or more changeably so, rather than near-0 chance with self-titled governments. (which royalty would almost put down their crown / be less cruel and let authority / power be taken over or reduced?)

▲ SUMMARY ▲
"GETTING REAL" OK BUT...
if it's mostly just a list of degrowth / eco stuff to advise people that "this could happen" instead then it's maybe more virtue-signalling than actual action - then it's a few pages and manifesto list for a potential movement by pointing (perhaps assuming they don't know) or asking those others who are frankly proven already as futile to ask again / beg again while NHS crumbles for 100th time and yachts are bought / jets and helicopters are normal taxi's for some.

If you have any doubt please say in reply "I believe they can turn around 180deg and they will endanger their own positions in the economy of control - and even exchange for it for maybe ecology reasons" and I'll consider this fairly clear.

Ask crocodiles BUT NO don't hope too much or put too much energy there (maybe you're not so that's ok).

█ 3 █ It's not clear what the question "Will you do that?" means in your send outs, so yes "we can point to what the alternative might be".... and then what... ?

The quoted parts above from a message like: mstdn.social/@degrowthuk/11255)

Thanks , remember those that care write!

AND

- it's their job to fail (not to serve us but serve themselves)...

- deliberate-design like planned obsolescence is (and how we buy it)

- toxic waste dumps behind closed doors etc etc is all part of that cycle...

so then isn't it a bit limited to ask them? (and while we are paying for it / even buying into it even if it's not all but mostly?)

Just Realised... I might never catch up on all my notes... (working forever now only "to do it later"?)... 

Though I've made good progress it's like the realisation today that "no one day I'll not get back to all this stuff" and "at this rate I'm creating more than I can catchup on..." 🚨

So "working forward" or not overloading the the future work instead of "one day I'll make time to catchup on ALL THIS ACCUMULATION" (!) seems better way.... any thoughts?

Though I've made good progress, and never forgotten much, it's like "working forward" instead of "one day I'll get back to all this stuff" which is kind of evident already if you and I are not doing the clean up now from the past stuff we set ourselves.

Data and stuff will just be left unprocessed! (which is only shame if we are forever working now only "to do it later" and don't do it later)


❓ What is it you put aside to constantly catch up on? ❓

#GrassRoots book titles to reflect our struggles... 

reading reading list by author Frances Fox Piven

Titles are good as inspiration or historical indication (haven't read these but interesting titles...)

📖 Labor Parties in Postindustrial Societies

📖 The War at Home: The Domestic Costs of Bush's Militarism

📖 Challenging Authority: How Ordinary People Change America

📖 Lessons for Our Struggle

📖 Regulating the Poor: The Functions of Public Welfare

📖 Poor People's Movements: Why They Succeed, How They Fail

📖 New Class War: Reagan's Attack on the Welfare State and Its Consequences

📖 Why Americans Don't Vote

📖 The Breaking of the American Social Compact

📖 Why Americans Still Don't Vote: And Why Politicians Want it That Way

📖 Who’s Afraid of Frances Fox Piven?

📖 Roots to Power: A Manual for Grassroots Organizing

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Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_

Email - Run Your Own Mail Server / Share with a few like-minded? (Decentralised Federated Mail) 

@bloc @denix @mwl I often think posts like the Email "SmallWeb" or "OwnWeb" thing could easily snowball or collect / accumulate / increment our interest because I've seen posts like these every now and again for a while - there are DieHard types of people out there (a good thing) but nowhere I can add comments on Fediverse or just a memorable place to go... maybe searching a hashtag like "SmallWeb" or "OwnWeb" hashtag or Fediverse Account called @fedimail <---wait a minute that exists!!...

(going to check that is a person offering free email.... !)

But yea let me know if interested in supplying email... or even just some theory because it is still a worthy protest-stick in the ground occasionally but I think we could do more and even make account somewhere (even as 2nd account with inactivity timers) and just vet each other here too - adding people 1by1 for email accounts or something times for and super-small setups as we are doing Fediverse / Mastodon already which is something / for now very reliable as decent people)



Run Your Own Mail Server ( ?)

@denix @mwl Absolutely. Which is why running you own mail server, done by as many people as possible, is important to break their monopolies. E-mail is meant to be a federated, not a centralized medium.

Great job opportunity at #RIPE #NCC : Conference Coordinator!

They get to organise RIPE meetings & help with hackathons, too!

Please share!

ripe.net/jobs

@jdrouet the magic really is done by postmarketos.org/, they provide an linux distribution aimed at phones. it's geared towards phone-like usage (allowing you to make calls and things like that), but it's a full linux that can run all kinds of stuff

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