Pioneers get made fun of... which they should if they are relevant...
BEING MADE FUN OF...
If you were never made fun of, then chances are that you were not doing something worth noticing or different (in the context of change or art etc)... it's not a 100% rule but if you're original then even in a good way you can be admired, talked about and also for bad way pointed out until people join or live with it / the subject.
Pioneers should probably get ridiculed as a sign they are relevant / triggering something (excluding the less genuine pioneers or actors).
PIONEERS GET THE FLACK FIRST...
The pioneers I think go though this almost proportionately as part of progress, new thinkers, concept, renewing old, contrasting to the existing society which itself might be too sterilised for example and so more the problem than any old/new thoughts. Right now feels like we are so sterile we borderline hate our own biology / can't accept our existence as bacteria - and instead of celebrating each other - want to kill ! #biology #pioneer #war #society #design
A Circle of Respect 🔁 or Vicious Excluding Circle 🔁 ?
So I can see someone is respected if they are professional.
But if it's true they are much less trust if not professional, then this disable society somewhat.
Even if not consciously thought of like that, it's similar to that (at least kinda).
A Circle of Respect 🔁 or Vicious Excluding Circle 🔁 ?
Something very binary / fascist / exclusive even if relationships are not conscious thought of that way... but often with people online I think people need too much street cred to precede them i order for people to keep a nice circle of progress going in #society.
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Warren Buffett once said, "If you don't find a way to make money while you sleep, you will work until you die."
Do you agree?
@mcc we already have an independent app store, it's called a web browser
If you don't serve attention to people. including fans. they will try other ways to get your attention...
Don't complain if you're serving yourself or computers more than actual people (it doesn't work "for the way").
Serving both yourself AND the movement is better. Everyone is inevitably part of everything... and can't be one way or just "donate" button.
#Consciousness vs #Science - Fundamental #Questions of Existence - CloserToTruth
#Consciousness vs #Science -
Fundamental #Questions of Existence + #CloserToTruth
Paper: A Landscape of Consciousness (+ YouTube link)
Toward a taxonomy of explanations and implications
Lawrence Kuhn recently published an extensive new article that covers the field of consciousness studies in its entirety.
YouTube Channel:
filtered by Invidious: https://invidious.fdn.fr/channel/UCl9StMQ79LtEvlrskzjoYbQ
Robert Lawrence Kuhn’s paper also covers the consequences of consciousness including artificial intelligence (AI), life after death, and virtual immortality.
“Explanations of consciousness abound and the radical diversity of theories is telling. Explanations, or theories, are said to work at astonishingly divergent orders of magnitude and putative realms of reality. My purpose here must be humble: collect and categorize, not assess and adjudicate. Seek insights, not answers.
Unrealistically, I’d like to get them all, at least all contemporary theories that are sufficiently distinct with explanations that can surmount an arbitrary hurdle of rationality or conceivability. Falsification or verification is not on the agenda. I’m less concerned about the ontological truth of explanations/theories than in identifying them and then locating them on a “Landscape” to enable categorization and assess relationships. Next, I assess implications of categories for “big questions.” Thus, this Landscape is not about how consciousness is measured or evolved or even works, but about what consciousness is and what difference it makes.
It’s the classic “mind-body problem:” How do the felt experiences in our minds relate to the neural processes in our brains? How do mental states, whether sensory, cognitive, emotional, or even noumenal (selfless) awareness, correlate with brain states? The Landscape of Consciousness explanations or theories I want to draw is as broad as possible, including those that cannot be subsumed by, and possibly not even accessed by, the scientific method. This freedom from constraint, as it were, is no excuse for wooly thinking. Standards of rationality and clarity of argument must be maintained even more tenaciously, and bases of beliefs must be specified even more clearly.
I have two main aims: (i) gather and describe the various theories and array them in some kind of meaningful structure of high-level or first-order categories (and under Materialism, subcategories); and (ii) assess their implications, with respect to four big questions: meaning/purpose/value (if any); artificial intelligence (AI) consciousness; virtual immortality; and survival beyond death.
Theories overlap; some work together. Moreover, while a real-world landscape of consciousness, even simplified, would be drawn with three dimensions (at least), with multiple kinds and levels of nestings—a combinatorial explosion (and likely no closer to truth)—I satisfice with a one-dimensional toy-model. I array all the theories on a linear spectrum, simplistically and roughly, from the “most physical” on the left (at the beginning) to the “least physical” on the right (near the end). (I have two final categories after this spectrum.) The physicalism assumed in Materialism Theories of consciousness is characterized by naturalistic, science-based perspectives, while non-materialism theories have various degrees of nonphysicalist perspectives outside the ambit of current science and in some cases not subject to the scientific method of experimentation and replicability.
Please do not ascribe the relative importance of a theory to the relative size of its description. The shortest can be the strongest. It sometimes takes more words to describe lesser-known theories. For each description I feel the tension between conciseness and completeness. Moreover, several are not complete theories in themselves but ways to think about consciousness that strike me as original and perhaps insightful.
I have followed consciousness studies in its various forms for my entire life. My PhD is in neurophysiology (thalamocortical evoked potentials). I am creator and host of Closer To Truth, the long-running public television series and web resource on science and philosophy, roughly one-third of which focuses on consciousness and brain/mind topics. I have discussed consciousness with over 200 scientists and philosophers who work on or think about consciousness and related fields (Closer To Truth YouTube; Closer To Truth website).
I use these Closer To Truth discussions as resources. I want to give feel and flavor, as well as propositions and arguments, for the astonishingly diverse attitudes and approaches to consciousness coming from radically diverse perspectives and worldviews. That’s why I use spontaneous quotes from verbal conversations along with meticulous quotes from academic papers.
In one early Closer To Truth episode, “What are the Big Questions of Science,” philosopher Patricia Churchland gave the bluntest answer: “Out of meat, how do you get thought? That’s the grandest question.” She distinguishes two major questions. One is whether psychological states—our mental life of remembering, thinking, creating—are really a subset of brain activity? The other is how do high-level psychological processes come about from basic neurophysiological actions? “How do brain cells, organized in their complex ways, give rise to my watching something move, or seeing color, or smelling a rose”(Churchland, 2000).
Philosopher David Papineau distinguishes three questions related to consciousness: How?, Where?, and What? “First, how does consciousness relate to other features of reality? Second, where are conscious phenomena located in reality? And, third, what is the nature of consciousness?” (Papineau, 2020a). Because this Landscape is structured by theories of consciousness, not by philosophical questions, each theory sets its own agenda for dealing with the three questions, mostly, of course, focusing on the How?
Philosopher Thomas Nagel sees more a fundamental conundrum and he frames it crisply. “We have at present no conception of how a single event or thing could have both physical or phenomenological aspects, or how if it did they could be related” (Nagel, 1986). In his influential paper, “What Is It Like to Be a Bat?,” Nagel offers, “Without consciousness the mind-body problem would be much less interesting. With consciousness it seems hopeless” (Nagel, 1974).
“Hopeless,” to me, is invigorating; I’m up for the “hopeless challenge.” Take all that follows as my personal journey of consciousness; idiosyncratic, to be sure; not all for everyone, not set in cement.”
Children are not for sale. (pictured)
Adults I think included as The Children of Earth.
(at least sell yourself with more meaning / overall solution)
#Fediverse #Audio #Show... [V1] 🎵 8 mins 🎵...... ⬇️ download ⬇️
#Friendship, #humour and #reality -
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🤩 ➡️ What do you want more of...?
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Thanks....
☑️ Hope you had a laugh during your day.
☑️ Replay 10 times at least
☑️ Talking together - let's make it easier between EVERYONE.
Much love at the end.
More Change = LE$$ Shampoo etc (Less Consuming of Capitalism?)
#Change is what changes things.
So less #shampoo? (has Sodium Lauryl Sulfate (#SLS) as foaming agent also isn't great as it bubbles almost infinitely into water)
Even #cleaning can be too much cleaning and #killing #biology / #biosphere / ourselves slowly while we #pay for it.
Unless you or me are willing to accept that we must change our luxury habits in order to affect change, then the game over is already over for change and we feed Big #pharmaceuticals and such.
We will not likely #change anything we need in this country AND others people's country if we don't limit ourselves or if we do spend do it on things that change people... (#food #planting and growing included in changing people)
#SodiumLaurylSulfate #BigPharma #BigTech
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_dodecyl_sulfate
"Civilisation" today means EVERY part of life is increasingly compromised - adding these techniques for squeezing the life and money out of people...
CIVILISATION INCLUDES:
Distancing actual work, distancing money paid (middlemen etc), #paper-work creating / installing bureaucratic hurdles, #financial reasoning / mindset / motives, top-level controlled, etc etc...
#Civilisation today is basically a new type of business / extraction / war on people from the old ages into the future to convert and funnel it all again to individuals who wants more power and less #sharing it back... #UnCivilisation
@lcamtuf @khionu @heidilifeldman @etchedpixels @jason @tobychev
[ lost post, please let me know which post about employees, saving face, balance of emotions, logic etc... hope one of you has post link - my reply to post follows]
I think this post kind of proves some of what repliers might object to or partially disagree to - and that shows that :
"different people have different logic... different perspectives... different valuation of things"
So Logic mainly on it's own doesn't stand.
Imagine the same with animals or basic/primitive emotional beings, which is why being a bit of a shepherd and saving their face are mentioned in the post (OP correct me if I'm completely wrong)...
At least "herding" animals and sheep is easier, throw some food around or walk with a bucket, but with people who knows what they are chasing or what there goal is (sometimes they don't even know which is why meetings help realise and moderate that like a buffer!)
Currently my project is for sorting emotions out as main communication (as a better logn way roudn to solving all society) so if you want more info or to humanise your project - just let me know and "join me" since sorting the world and it's emotions is the last thing on most of Fediverse's mind but undoubtedly it's own proof why! !
@lcamtuf I think this post kind of proves some of what others might object to or partially disagree to - and that is that:
"different people have different logic / different perspectives / different valuation"
Logic doesn't stand with animal, which is why being a bit of a shepherd and saving face are mentioned (correct me if completely wrong)...
At least "herding" animals or sheep is easier, throw some food around or walk with a bucket, but with people who knows what they are chasing or what there goal is (sometimes even they don't know which is why meetings help realise and moderate that!)
I'm going for sorting emotions at the moment so if you want a human project - "join me" (ask for more info)
#SmallWeb Intro + Resource List
People digging digital holes.... Lack of practise with humans...
People digging digital holes....
Holes are dug as people work when they don't do human interaction for anything / everything
If #AI is repulsive to you, you can see it's not far to say the whole computing world from #AWS storage and beefier Google servers, more storage space everywhere for everything... and generally "normal" became not so normal (bloated / out of control)
#computing becomes steroided 🍔 Hamburger fast-food consumption like McDonalds while people starve from attention <--- ok that's good
I start to think of these computer people as less human. AND ON TOP BUYING TONS OF American webspace like McDonalds... no no no... even if double ram for your server is $8 - don't click. Have a smaller rig run more audio / voice chats between people or a better ratio if you need steroids for computing.
It's like this equation for a diagram or comic...
the more they use #AI or computers in general
AND... the less I see them responding on their replies
THEN YOU ARE ALMOST 💯 full-on computer person
SO = a bad practice of humanity / missing humanity (even if I imagine you do other things in life)
Your habit needs separation (from your computer to common communication and being part of other people's lives more directly even via voice / video).
This helps practise of human expression and emotions in more things and eventually fixes people (them or you) in everything which gradually the computers STUNT YOUR GROWTH 🌱 and you mind 🧠 unless you think your as good as a human as you are with computers... sorry make the uphill struggle with us! We too need practise! ![]()
I thought my audio today might be 'burning bridges' but to some extent 2 reasons to consider caring for people less...
1) 💬 real people come back (even if I'm wrong and see I can admit it)
2) bridges were never there in the first place? ...so 'fuck em / does it matter anyway?' (it's never great to say 'fuck them' as reduces chance and attitude isn't great but artist expression is going to be my phase of ripping into bot-like avatar ghosts for real people on Fediverse 👥 and the over great thing is COMMUNING / COMMUNICATION else we're fucked or stuck in programming world (so even more fucked) as people dig digital holes deeper)
(this is about my audio today thinking I might be 'burning bridges' but to some extent - see https://qoto.org/@freeschool/112773505902608832 which these 2 reasons to consider caring for people less apply...)
Imagine the surprise to #programmers as you explain they need to re-program their own mind...
How do you break it to them gently and help them bring work back into the human spectrum without making it too personal?
Imagine the surprise to #programmers as you hint that they need to re-program their own mind from being too involved with their computer work for too long and thinking like a computer or expecting short sentences only.
I imagine readers of this can look at this, and 'who is saying this', rather than 'what I am saying' that previous generation either didn't have or lost the humanisation in exchange for computerisation... so while grateful - IT IS ENOUGH.
Please bring the slider back towards more human communication, more often...
Start with me for a soft start and optionally if you want to work on how to do that with more people - but don't continue only the computer work as you're losing time in the other realms...
F is for Freedom and #FreeSchool hashtag is what this is about...
All things towards #Freedom (moving from Shorter to Deeper and Caring thoughts)
TOGETHER & MORE OFTEN DIRECTLY (who else is going to do it?).
#FreeSchool profile has #Notes #Quotes (extracts / gems) from great #Books #Videos #Talks #Websites from all around the world towards
#DIY Care (because nobody else is going to as best as you do for those around) - #Caring IS our main #Politics / #Politics and "System" (not a system of cheating each other but caring and what Capitalism is cutting out - this is what we need to put back in and teach to those willing).
#Degrowth / PostGrowth
#WellbeingEconomy #DoughnutEconomics
#CaringEconomy / #CareEconomy / #Partnerism
"Free School" is a term for a movement born from the 1960's / 70's using educational living & learning practice towards #Caring & #DIY with all others (all at the same time - not an after-thought or specialism in 1 field or person who is a #compartmentalised person ignoring others in other fields). Caring to involves more things, increasingly aiming towards everything...
Posts are 1-line #Notes and #Quotes that links all other things (it's all relative).
Long comments use CW to shorten post vertically and add a 'show more' button to reveal more text if you want it. Long posts might seem bad but it's giving chance to more connection and understanding.
All things towards #Freedom (life moving from Shorter to Deeper thought).
Freedom doesn't come from short-depth lifestyles / short lines of text / ignoring / #inaction. Not less communication between lovers of similar things. MORE!)
#FreeSchool = Learning Together 🔁
#FreeSchool = Working Together 🔁 (eventually + I do Free work for Freedom.
#FreeSchool = Co-Operating & #DIY Solutions 🔁
See My #FreeSchool (Hashtag) for latest examples anytime. Or keep open and refresh from time to time:
https://qoto.org/web/tags/freeschool
#FreeSchool ➡ Increment Talking + Peacefully solve everything.
TLDR - Inaction = Fascism
Trust comes from "slowly but surely"... Doesn't have to be all-in, but peace doesn't come from one-way short messaging on 'social' Mastodon either - collecting memes and cats only is limited!
Remember we need develop better humans as well as 'develop' code on computers etc.
☮ Peace needs more... even to save all types of cats!
Get in touch - I'm someone that cares for everything because it's all human-related...
Human #chats welcome - I using #Jitsi audio chat which uses JUST browser (ANY PLATFORM + 2minutes to enter !)
(i.e. no-install / no account / no google / instant / privacy-respecting / safe-enough, etc!) Really the best out there - any platform / device! Instant audio chat !
Just ask for a link and prepare a few topics!
#AltText used (when I remember).
FREE WORK - I do free audio and video editing (anything considered - just ask).
Again - Creating Trust needs a bit of trust given "slowly but surely"... not all-in... being relaxed about it... but has to be more - 'working' like a 2nd job towards peace because your job isn't going to do it / it's now allow by State to get there! War increases prices etc ☮
So do "peace" as a side-job like it was your real job in the world, parallel to the Capitalism (Trap) you (we) were born into. We have to accept that and fight out of that and not be comfortable in it.
Heart and Soul all the way.