SecondJon @SecondJon@qoto.org

@timorl
I'm not sure that calling yourself an alternative to the right makes you part of the right. Seems to be the opposite.

I'm also unsure of what values are shared between the right and the alternative.
@freemo

@freemo
Do you have a chapter and verse for where Jesus was beating politicians with whips? Jesus was seeking to protect the place of prayer, where the place where non jews were allowed to worship was turned into a marketplace, preventing people from worshiping.

I suppose the analogy would be to be against those who get in the way of free exercise of religion?

Jesus taught to fulfill one's obligation to the government, but responsibility for moral behavior was individualistic. I'm not sure that's anarchy. He didn't teach against the government, but rather for personal responsibilities.

He didn't stop anyone from following him and his teaching, regardless of which background they left behind to do so. "Neither do I condemn you, go and sin no more" is what he taught, forgiveness and repentance.

I guess I could see how someone could put together that meme from a very partial understanding of select phrases pulled out of context. I tend to have a response to that because all sorts of wrong has happened throughout history from people running with a very partial understanding of select phrases pulled out of context.

@design_RG

@freemo
I think it's a good point, though, that the right is willing to identify a line and say : that's too far, it's unacceptable and the extremists claiming to be on the right are not part of us. The left has no line of extremism that is too extreme to be part of the left.

And that's used as we see here too deny its existence. If we don't label anyone on the left too extreme, it means there's no extremists on the left. (In other contexts the left also also labels everyone on the right as extremists, so extremist means everyone to one side of me on a spectrum, and no one on the other side of me.)

It seems healthier to know how far is too far, and when to deny those who claim to be associated with you.
@timorl

@design_RG
I've used libib for cataloging my library and Good reads for tracking what I've read /am reading. I wouldn't mind it all being in one place (and not Amazon's), but... Enter 200 items for free, as many as you like for $10 (year) or $25 (life).

At some point I may take the time to try the free version, but it wouldn't get me very far.
@LibraryThing

@design_RG
What strange takes on Christ. I wonder what the source material is.
@freemo

@stsmith
I stopped reading after one woman in Florida. This seems to be cherry picked hyper local stories, about one crime in Chicago, one weirdo in Florida, etc., rather than trends as the title indicates.

In other news, looking at trends, this is the best decade ever...

https://spectator.us/just-best-decade-human-history-seriously/

Interesting how one's perspective and how things are framed make it seem like the best of times or the worst of times

We’ve just had the best decade in human history. Seriously | Spectator USA

Let nobody tell you that the second decade of the 21st century has been a bad time. Extreme poverty has fallen below 10 percent of the world’s population

https://spectator.us/just-best-decade-human-history-seriously/

@timorl
It may be terrible, but it's what we've seen in the house of representatives. My understanding is that the republican senate is repulsed by this same thing in the Democrat house. Pelosi recently said they've been working to impeach the president for years, so this is neither about Ukraine nor impartiality.
@freemo

@freemo
Nor is there a law that the senate majority leader must be impartial (which is to say nonhuman).

I'm just speaking of the optics, not the legality.

@timorl

@freemo @timorl
I do think they're playing the role of swamp dwellers well. This is exactly the confirmation Trump would wish for after calling them the swamp. To hold purely partisan vote after saying a partisan vote would not be okay. To rush it through in time for a 2020 candidate debate, then put it on hold indefinitely.

Even the fact that they didn't list any crime in the impeachment, makes it look like they're simply using all of their power to overturn one election and help their candidates in the next election.

@freemo
No one is impartial. Let alone a partisan majority leader.
@timorl

@RyuKurisu
There's not a direct disagreement here. A basic human need is not the same as a human right.

Of course, it's a loaded discussion. What does it mean to have a Right?

@Mac_CZ

@shibaprasad
I don't have anything regularly for that. I am adding some weights, but am experimenting right now with a few options.

@shibaprasad

I started by walking a 5k every day. I'd jog a little and walk a lot. I started going further once per week, and started jogging more than walking. By the time I got up to 7 miles /11km, I was only jogging /running, no walking. At that point I pulled up the Hal Higdon marathon training plan linked here. 4 runs per week : short /medium /short /long.

I went up to 17+ miles then cut back and am basically doing 4 runs per week, about 5k/10k/5k/rest/half marathon/rest/rest. With warm up/cool down its 4/7/4/14 miles.

I think I'll add one more mile to my medium just to round out to 30 miles per week.

https://www.halhigdon.com/training-programs/marathon-training/novice-1-marathon/#training-schedule

@realcaseyrollins
Well, the magazine got a lot of free media. I doubt it will change anyone's mind on this issue.