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@juliank
Who cares about the way IMAP presents labels apart from people who download mail over IMAP?

@djsumdog @wikihow

@freeschool

> most schooling covers some parts

But not the important ones even! I'm sure that Haber process (which made blockading South America not an effective strategy to deny one's opponent access to explosives and made both explosives production and agriculture much more prolific) was not even a footnote in my historical education.

> the human aspects or effects are not really part of it perhaps because of the less-factual speculation involved from opinions and ethics (...)

But the inventions themselves are also absent. I'd expect them to be mentioned _because_ of their effects, which are the effects that are apparent in what is described. I'm not even talking about trying to figure out whether an invention was generally helpful for people (which IMO isn't called for when teaching history: speculation on how the world would look like without it, and speculation on why it appeared when it did is, but ascribing value to outcomes is IMO out of its scope).

I (often?) complained that the history that's taught in schools is history of politics and of military. I've realized that the history of military isn't really taught outside of its intersection with history of politics: the influence of technology on military was very spottily covered (I remember hearing about effects of the invention of crossbows, firearms in general, and sailing ships (as opposed to oar-powered ones), but nothing about observation balloons -- even in the context of Napoleon, I can't recall a single discussion of use of new ways to communicate, nothing about Haber process (!), nor about improvements to aiming, guidance, and explosion timing for various weapons).

Why is history, as taught, so devoid of talking about effects of inventions, even in areas that it sort-of covers? My experience is from Polish schools, is it different in other places?

@timorl Well, but that's a consequence of the discontinuity. I wanted to say that things break down way earlier than that (for waves in a container, when they're a nontrivial fraction of the water depth the things are way past breaking down). @imyxh

@imyxh Eh, that's somewhat misleading. There are things that break way earlier than at such a discontinuous transition: things become nonlinear (e.g. the pendulum's period being independent of amplitude is only true in small amplitudes).

@Zerglingman

Lapsing. TTBOMK most (all?) registries require that registrar send an e-mail some time before expiry (regardless of automatic renewal setups...). (It might actually be all, because they may have been prodded into doing that by ICANN.)

@digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im @timorl

@timorl I don't really recall much about freenom, but if I was complaining about a registrar's bad behaviour, it was about behaviour that violates their agreement with the registry.

Maybe this was about warning before expiry, which registrars are supposed to do in a very exactly prescribed fashion?

@Zerglingman @digdeeper@mastodon.honeypot.im

Imagine a hollow shell (with massless walls) filled with an incompressible, nonviscous fluid. How can one find effective moments of inertia of such a shell?

Obviously, when the shell is spherical, the moment of inertia is zero. If the shell is a cube, it seems that the moment of inertia is no larger than the moment of inertia of the fluid outside of the largest inscribed sphere. However, this isn't likely to yield correct results in general: moment of inertia for a spherical shell with 3 perpendicular crossbars through the middle is almost surely lower than that of all the fluid present there.

, a problem in the style of

From the category of people who are in a surprising intersection of categories: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannes_K

@timorl I still distinctly remember when my literature teacher explained what makes a joke funny (nonthreatening surprise), upon which I promptly started trying to invent jokes (with a nonzero amount of success).

@trinsec

@rogatywieszcz

> telefon służy do rozmowy

> przetestujcie (...) dostęp do klawiatury

Nie wydaje mi się, żeby chodziło o cyferblat, który jest jedyną klawiaturą potrzebną do rozmowy :p

complimenting strangers 

@moonbolt
I wonder if your approach would be different if the object of the compliment was not clothing or hair but something like e.g. a backpack.

@PurpleShadow

@dialupdoll Actually, you gave me an idea: would it maybe make sense to have a client that translates so that you can use a vanilla MUA? It could do that either by fetching stuff into a mailbox format, or by exposing something like IMAP to the MUA. One thing I can't really figure out is how to deal with boosts and with threads where some messages only were sent "directly" to me.

Maybe translation to Usenet would make more sense?

@dialupdoll Then threads, exposing ActivityPub concepts, offline search and input methods for mobile are most relevant.

One other thing that comes to mind if you expect people to ever use this as a more chat-like thing: being able to specify what messages cause a notification.

One other (maybe minor, but one that would contribute to the experience incrementally) thing that I didn't think of before is: filters at least as expressive as Sieve that allow messages to be grouped, notifications to be emitted or suppressed etc.

@dialupdoll

I'm not sure if you are thinking about chat clients for existing protocols, or chat services altogether, so I'll mention things that are relevant in either case.

In chat I want the conversation style of ytalk back: one where you see the other person's keystrokes as they type.

In mobile clients (of chat or social media) I would wish for an input method that doesn't rely heavily on word prediction, auto-correct, automatic capitalization, etc. and was still fast enough to comfortably type with it. I'm not sure what could give me that short of a chording minikeyboard.

In any clients I would want to have search functionality that can search through all the conversations I've ever was involved in (obviously unless I caused them to be deleted). Stemming _and_ "advanced search" are both a significant plus.

If we're talking about Fediverse social media client, I would want it to be more explicit about ActivityPub: ActivityPub has messages with recipients, cc, etc. (just like emails) and yet Mastodon and similar services try to hide that behind a layer of abstraction that seems designed to resemble other social networks (see e.g. the sharing choices for a post, or the lack of any sharing options whatsoever for boosts). For me this layer just adds confusion.

For social media, I think I would like a more email-like thread support. Web client of Mastodon currently is cumbersome when dealing with long and branching threads.

In chat I would dearly want to be able to send a "silent message": one that doesn't cause the recipient to be notified (and obviously is clearly marked as such). This would allow me to fret less about how should I try to reach people: if we had a conversation about <foo> over chat, I can simply continue it there even if it's the middle of the night and I don't want to potentially wake them up.

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@bagder A crazy idea on how to handle that is to try all possibilities, starting with the preferred parsing. Alas, that would create very weird failure modes ("my .netrc stopped working when the server reduced the quota of failed login attempts").

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