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@freemo @blueplanetslittlehelper @zleap @trinsec

Saying something doesn't work when it isn't even used properly isn't an argument at all. That's like saying that the vaccine doesn't work because they missed your arm and squirted all over your clothes instead.

FYI, this what a respirator looks like:

@freemo

>"Several ways. First it encourages people to touch their face more as it can be uncomfortable and usally causes people to fidget or itch their nose."

You can't touch your nose or mouth while you're wearing a respirator, it's sealed to the face in an airtight seal. You have to take the respirator away from your face to actually tough your nose or mouth.

>"It also means you have to touch an infected mask and face everytime you drink or eat causing your hand and face to spread."

You can tough the outside of a respirator all you want, but the particles still won't penetrate the filter material.

You should never eat or drink in an area where there may be virus in the air.

>"Moreover masks are only supposed to be used for a few hours at a time, so if they arent washed and reused they become particularly infectious"

You shouldn't be spending that much time in an environment with possible virus in the air. You should only make short, essential trips. I've worn an elastomeric respirator for up to four hours at time without issue.

@zleap @trinsec

@freemo @lucifer

>"No i only take sacrifices. However if your like to take a hard stance on reducing suffering i will also accept human sacrifices."

Killing a goat would be cruel. He's a Lamb instead.

qoto.org/@Pat/1073989910212326

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Anti-vax, anti-mask televangelist dies from COVID-19
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A prominent TV Christian evangelist who often told his followers not to take the vaccine or wear masks and to use quack cures instead, has died after becoming infected with COVID-19 in early November.

He would tell his followers to pray instead of getting jabbed.

Well, I guess those who prayed for him had their prayers answered. They just didn't get the answer they expected.


nytimes.com/2021/12/01/us/marc

@freemo @zleap @trinsec

I agree that masks don't work very well at stopping the spread of the virus. That's why we need to wear respirators instead. I've cited the studies here before on that.

But respirators alone aren't 100% because, as you say, some people don't use them correctly. So we need to use the triad -- respirators, vaccines, and testing -- to eliminate the virus. The respirator component of that triad includes intensive public education on the use of them as well as widespread distribution of the devices.

@2ck @izaya

Sourdough takes a long time to do right. You need to keep the dough at the right temperature, about 23C if I remember correctly, and make sure it's not sealed airtight, just covered with a cloth or something. It takes about a week for it to get bubbling really good.

It also takes longer for the dough to rise after you mix it with flour for the bread, about a day. You can add bakers yeast to the sourdough loaf if you don't want to wait but, as you found, the flavor is not as strong.

Regarding the history -- just a conjecture -- when whole grains are stored in a large bin, when you get down to the bottom of the bin you find tiny grain pieces and dust instead of whole grain due to granular convection. Perhaps when some pre-historic cooks were down to their last bits of grain, they noticed that those pieces cooked much quicker and decided to do that intentionally.

@freemo @zleap @trinsec

Cloth mask = 20 - 30%
Respirators = 95 - 99.97%

@lucifargundam

I remember that scene and the owl, but I don't think I could ever infer the plantlike=opulence notion from that scene. I'd need to read the book to get that.

@zleap @trinsec @freemo

Scott Gottlieb said on Face The Nation on Sunday (2021/12/05) that the event holders required at least one shot of a vaccine for attendees.

@zleap @trinsec @freemo

We also don't know what precautions the event-holders took to prevent spread, e.g., we don't know if they required vax to attend. However, the NYT article has a picture of a few of the attendees and none of them are wearing respirators.

@zleap @trinsec @freemo

>"So from this it is really difficult to draw any actual conclusions. without more information."

With regard to the virulence of Omicron, no, we don't really know yet.

However, it is likely that it spread beyond the group of 30, because the NYT article said that a Connecticut man tested positive for the Omicron variant after one of his relatives returned from the conference. Since that is Connecticut's first case of Omicron, the man likely caught it from his relative who attended the conference, indicating that it spread beyond those 30 people in that one group.

@zleap @trinsec

Actually, I just reread the article and it was 15 out of 30 of the guy's friends that tested positive, not all of them. It doesn't say how many of the 30 were tested or how many of the 15 were symptomatic or what their health status was.

@trinsec

Yes, if Omicron induces strong immunity to the previous variants and is much less lethal and less virulent, then it would be a benefit to have it spread through the unvaxed population. However, the article said that 15 of the guy's friends all got sick, so it sounds like it's still fairly virulent because previous variants had significant non-symptomatic spread.

We just got to wait to see how bad it is as the numbers come in.

@freemo

Thank you for looking that up. The slight decline in later years is probably due to a reduced number of contacts as people get older (less partying, etc.).

ps - Hope you have a speedy recovery.

@lucifargundam

Thank you. I don't remember that being in there. It's been a while since I've watched it -- I'll have to watch it again.

The Anime NYC conference at Jarvis Convention Center (Nov. 19-21, 2021) was super-spreader event for the Omicron virus.

nytimes.com/2021/12/04/world/o

@lucifargundam

I never read that one, but I saw the movie. I don't think that made it into the movie though.

@lucifargundam

> "Having pets/plants is seen as a sign of wealth/status because it takes scarce time and income to feed living things."

Unless they're edible. (The plants, that is.)

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