SecondJon @SecondJon@qoto.org

Sure enough, this was calculated and reported on a few years ago. This was before the new change allowing doctors to kill patients who aren't terminal, but have a broken bone, feel sad, or ask for a chair like the first post in this thread.

From the article from the original law allowing only end of life MAID, calculated only on those who would be Died by their doctors within the last month of life:

"Medically assisted deaths could save millions in health care spending: Report...

Across Canada, journal calculates up to $136.8 M in savings"

The savings exceedingly outweigh the estimated $1.5 to $14.8 million in direct costs associated with implementing medically assisted dying.

...

"It's just the reality of working in a system of finite resources."

The report also emphasized that it is only a cost analysis and doesn't include the clinical effects on patients.

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I... I think I have a guess at the effect on patients...when you're killing them.

@ne1for23

I wondered how this would have come up. Context matters. Here's what I found.

Jackson brought up a Santa who didn't want to take photos with multi racial kids, Alito asked about a Santa not wanting to take a photo with people in KKK outfits. This matters as the current case is about turning down business for a reason and they're pressing what kind of other situation it aligns with.

From the article, it was Kagan who then talked about black children wearing KKK outfits.

Supreme Court Justice Elana Kagan then clarified that in this scenario, the same KKK outfit could be worn by a child regardless if that child is "Black or white or any other characteristic," and the same law would apply.

"You do see a lot of Black children in Ku Klux Klan outfits, right?" Alito then joked. "All the time."

There's got to be a simple math formula about projected future tax revenue vs cost of treatment, right?

Not going to pay in more? We can help. By killing you.

Free up space from the surplus population.

Looks like it's time to read A Christmas Carol again.

@johntrain @Swifty@freeatlantis.com

Yeah, my post was speaking about how I parent my kids, not about how others parent theirs. And my kids do know it's one of many stories we enjoy, like Narnia and middle earth and so on, and that is not what Christmas is about.

I have met adults who still have trust issues because their parents didn't have a fun story, but instead built up the whole season around the story saying it was in fact.... fact.

Yikes.

We're really big on trust around here.

@Swifty@freeatlantis.com @johntrain Imaginitive play is important. And so is building parent child relationships on trust.

I always try to tell the truth to my kids.

I also sometimes tell my toddler I've got his nose. He knows it's play, and that doesn't detract from the fun. He takes my nose and throws it to the moon.

Santa is a great story, and we love good story. Story matters. We also talk about the real historic Saint Nicholas and his generosity and protection for kids... and how instead of coal for bad kids, it may be face slaps for heretics.

But the real magic of what we celebrate is a much deeper magic than an old man traveling the world giving kids goodies.

@ianvarley Welcome to another #salesforce #architect!

Looks like we've been working on Salesforce about the same length of time. I cut over from full stack development at a tech startup, then eight years at a large manufacturing company, now at a nonprofit and part time consulting on the side.

@joshuapsteele wahoo! Congratulations!

@acbilson saw this and hadn't thought too much about The Common Rule since I read it a few years ago.

https://www.thecommonrule.org/advent-edition

@freemo @antares @derickflorian @toxomat @ceoln @PaulaToThePeople @shelenn

I can take the tangent further... Is "dog whistle" a dog whistle? Is it further a dehumanizing phrase, othering those not on one's group to say they are inhuman, just animals that respond to signals?

More seriously, I do get concerned at the growing list of Forbidden Words deemed to be dog whistles. It's hard to keep up.

@freemo @toxomat @shelenn @ceoln the latest comment reads to me as.... Despite proof Yay all stated concerns are resolved, there's still problems and if you don't know, I'm not going to tell you.

Hardly treating others well with that kind of attitude. Feels less like a vetted list and more like.. the Paula Don't Like You list. 🤣

Treating others well is one thing I think #qoto is known for. Sad that the idea isn't shared more widely.