🎓 Doc Freemo 🇳🇱 @freemo@qoto.org

@celesteh Correct I am using the definition most of the world uses in general conversation, not a technical term (also the definition provided by wikipedia).

I've been hankering to do some EE work lately... I think I want to do something analog, maybe RF, but what to do....

@Surasanji I dont really give it a single definition. I see human progress as multi-faceted. Just as I dont see intelligence as meaning math or science but includes artistic and social intelligence among others.

@Surasanji I think we define it for the context we speak on. In most moral areas I see some progress but mostly just churn disguised as progress. We liberate some groups while oppressing the next. But I think there is sme legitimate sense of moral progress in other ways,

For technology I think there is a clear sense of progress but the rate of which has remained fairly constant throughout the millennia,

@celesteh I'm not talking parties, I think it is obvious to many that the democratic party often has candidates who are neither neo-liberal or classical liberal.

I am talking about people, and there is no shortage of the left in america, by that i mean "Supporting a government whose focus is taxation aimed at wealth distribution as well as a high reliance on government regulation" which tends to be descriptive of the left in most ountries including the US.

While in and of itself this isnt always a devestating decision in america it is applied with a toddler level of understanding that makes it nearly impossible to succeed. One day with more education perhaps the left and right in america might make sense, be regardless left and right does apply.

@celesteh Though to be fair most of the world rarely uses classic left to mean left either, everywhere uses some variation of neo-liberal usually specific to their own local definition of left and right. More often than not they use left to mean socialism in some form, rather than its classical definition which is in many ways contrary to this.

@celesteh There absolutely is a mainstream left in america. The difference is they just lack the sort of rational debate you'd get out of a leftist in most areas.

Keep in mind i am using the neo-left vs right scale not the classical left definition. If we use classical left as the definition then I would tend to agree with you. Problem is classic-left in america is wrongfully viewed as just a varient of right.

@Saederup92 Exercise happened to it...

@Saederup92 Doing well, my back is having a good day, I hope I'm healing :)

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@reactor More the state of the human race than just politics. This behavior so often permeates their entire life well beyond just politics.

Note to self: never eat food while wearing clothes...

@Surasanji Absolutely. Plus i find the environment is so nurturing of that that any true abusers are exceedingly rare. I cant remember the last time we had to block anyone for outright abuse. Usually a talking to does the trick if someone is getting feisty.

@Saederup92

@etherealsolkatt I think you meant this as reply to my post (shows as a normal post instead)... But i never hold an individual to blame for the actions of a group they are in. I'll judge you on your own merit. But the pattern seems very real.