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@spazzpp2

Several ways. First it encourages people to touch their face more as it can be uncomfortable and usally causes people to fidget or itch their nose.

It also means you have to touch an infected mask and face everytime you drink or eat causing your hand and face to spread.

Moreover masks are only supposed to be used for a few hours at a time, so if they arent washed and reused they become particularly infectious

@alpinefolk friendica is broken in terms of federation. I dont know much about diaspora. I'd suggest either pleorma or mastodon.

@spazzpp2 I am convinced masks increase the spread of disease when worn by the general public, probably significantly so. Which puts a lot of this in question.

@Pat

There has never been a remotely convincing study to show those numbers hold true in the wild.

Only time I woud expect masks to work are under highly controlled settings, even the data in those settings is severely lacking however.

I've explained my logic before, quite simply, masks encourage you to touch your face more and they tend to be used beyond just a few hours (the limit in a clinical setting) and become vectors themselves as well.

@zleap @trinsec

@Gina just a word of warning, using any means of making coffee that doesnt involve a paper filter causes **extremely** high cholesterol. The paper filter filters out a chemical (cafestol) in coffee beans that causes dangerously high cholesterol when consumed

@bonifartius

The one constand with COVID no matter what side you are on is to exaggerate the facts beyond all recognition in your favor

@zleap @Pat @trinsec

@freemo
> Its a bit more complicated than that. For starters immunity doesnt identify all parts of a virus. It only identifies parts of a virus that have a binding site on it. As far as i know thats just the spike protien for covid but i may be wrong.

for covid there are at least spike- and nucleocapsid-proteins for which antibodies are created.

> As for immunity leading to reducing the attack surface, thats very much a myth that keeps circulating and its more complex than that. Studies show that when you introduce vaccines, or natural immunity, but do not approach herd immunity that you increase the chances of variants evolving. Therefore immunity is only effective at stoping the virus effectively id herd immunity can be reached first. So the two factors at play is the mutation rate of the virus pitted against the time it takes to approach herd immunity. Coronaviruses tend to evolve relatively quickly and as such its unlikely we could reach a herd immunity before it triggers a new strain.

i meant herd immunity by "attack surface", yes. i think with the current vaccines we can't win the race as immunity wanes too fast (like you've wrote), it might would have been better to roll them out only for at risk groups to reduce the risk for selection around the vaccine. this point is moot though.

> Finally while you are right the new strains are not going to necessarily evolve towards being more deadly, they also arent neceseraly going to evolve towards being more silent. More often we see it evolve to be more contagious earlier in the infection leaving it to be as deadly as it "wants" to be later in the infection. Many viruses kill or disable you, or show symptoms at all, only after the most contagious part of their life cycle.

agreed! i just think it's the worst FUD i know if the WHO president says "deadly as ebola" about the omicron variant.

@zleap @Pat @trinsec

@kro

::looks over excitidly::

Youare singing my tune. ::makes finger-guns at you::

@Firelion

@NEETzsche

Says the boy having a tantrum befitting a toddler. LOL ok. yea time to mute you, for real, what a joke.

@ChristiJunior @trinsec

@duke

Never said that, nice try moron. If your going to try to troll at least be creative.

@ChristiJunior @moonman @NEETzsche @trinsec

@moonman

Nope, I said something entierly different, as is shown in the screenshot.

@ChristiJunior @NEETzsche @trinsec

@NEETzsche

You are just as much a waste of my time here as you were on matrix. Welcome to mute.

@ChristiJunior @trinsec

@NEETzsche

Oh wow all the idiots who follow you selected one of two options that both agreed with you either way. Impressive man, you sure showed me.

@duke @trinsec

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