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@Raccoon

> Imane Khelif is a cisgender woman: she was born and raised as a woman, and has competing for over 5 years as a woman.

Oh this is about that boxer... yea of course she is a woman, any claims to the contrary are idiotic. She was born and identified as a woman and has always identified as such. She is a woman.

> The Russian government claimed she failed some sort of secret "gender test" to have her disqualified after she beat their champion in a tournament last year, and now people are calling her a "man" after a recent 1st round knockout.

This is where it departs from the news I've heard. Had nothing to do with the russian government, wasnt a secrete test, but she was disqualified.

The test you are refering to was a non-secret chromosome test that was conducted at the 2023 world boxing championship in India. So not russia. The test was public at the time and disqualified two contestants including her.

I should point out that while the news reports it as a chromosome test the actual first-source info I could find only specifies the gender test is not a testosterone test. They do not however specify the specific reason they fail the test for obvious privacy reasons. That said it does seem reasonable the news is correct that it is a chromosome test.

> ...but she's not a "man", she's never been a "man", and no one thought of her as a "man" until she won against a Russian...
>
> She's a woman.

I totally agree she is a woman in every way that matters. That said it does appear she may be intersex, and perhaps only now is finding out about it. Is she still a woman, yes, of course. But if the news is to belevied she is a woman who happens to be intersexed (and probably never knew it), as in, she physically has the characteristics of a woman but has the DNA of a man. I would still call that a woman.

That said, should she be competing in woman's sports? I mean, I guess that would depend on why we have woman's sports. If the logic is that men have a physical advantage over women, then perhaps not, as that chromosome gives her that same advantage potentially.

On the other hand if the reason we seperate out sports by sex is for some other reason, like to avoid inappropriate touching or to give women better recognition by giving them their own space, then I'd say she should not be disqualified.

Me personally, I'd do away with woman's sports all together. Use weight classes or skill level to pair up similarly matched people, call it a day.

@freeschool

All good, no hard feelings like I said.

Dont confuse what I stand for, or how strongly I stand for it with what I stand for and impose on others.

I beleive very strongly that you should have **control** over your data. Not that it shouldnt be scrapped or that it should, but only that you should have the power to enable your data to be used how you please.

Any over arching statement about data I make as a default will impose my views about data on others. I only want to empower them.

My views mostly revolve around choice and empowerment but I go real strong into not having my views being forced on anyone else.

> If your main task is not improving people direction and more into the Tech or AI

I dont see these two as separate. You having access to powerful tools, if done right, should give you the means to improve yourself and others through better social interaction. The key here is empowerment rather than enforcing an ideology.

> Your past appreciation you also might forget so in general it's just a bunch of forgetfulness in total itself... like I haven't been grateful or should remain grateful for increasingly empty words I've had to push replies for (you could have updated us).

I dont need the appreciation so much... Its more about the tone and insistence on getting your way. Feel free to talk about it and im not suggesting you should stop. But remember this is a free service done as a hobby. This server was only ever opened to others out of generosity and no gain to me.

> It's not negative to say things you said months ago and even recently the searchable post would be done and frankly even free bad promises is also bad work like I said - nobody likes when the washing machine guy doesn't turn up again.

You stating facts werent really the issue, I quoted the part i mostly took issue with.

> Eat it and expect it from no power on my side or ability to align people out of what you demonstrate you clearly have or have not the time for sometimes.

If you managed to align the community to rally around a particular idea id be much more likely to adopt it. Generally I try to listen to anythign the community has consensus on.

> If you could help "pity the fool" who is data trapped here since Mastodon cleverly doesn't even have an import function or offline viewer of my data - somewhat great for these situations - so helping me export my data outbox,json to something human readable offline with pictures together means I'd quite happily "save" you all the money on me,.. and shows further you just don't get it and on some other mission.

If I wanted to save the money on you then I just wouldnt provide you the service. I wouldnt need to offer you something in exchange. I'm not obligated to keep footing the bill if I dont want to obviously. That said if I ever did decide such a thing I'd give plenty of notice. But still, this is kinda what I mean, your statement/tone here seems to suggest I have obligation to you like I owe you something. I dont, what I do I do out of a sense of consideration, not obligation.

@freeschool Stop demanding I speak for everyone to reflect your wishes.

Not everyone on our server wants our data to not be scrapped, some do, some dont. You want a "sign" about some default policy, put it on **your** profile. Also everyone gets the ability to select their web indexing setting, you can set it as private or not. Any robot that respects the standards will respect your setting, and robot that doesnt wont.

Putting up a sign does **nothing** to protect you, because bots do the scraping, not people. But even if it did many of us WANT to be scrapped so you have no right to dictate your privacy settings on a sign or statement reflecting everyone.

There are tools in place already for this, use it.

Feel free to talk about this all you want but what I dont like are 2 things

1) when you demand I give an idea attention when I say no its weeks if not months ofyou complaining and trying to generate hate campaigns against the decision or even attacking me as an admin.

2) now you've resorted to even putting words in my mouth like "Admin Freemo not big into improving people"

Ya know what I've never seen from you though... appreciation that I spend nearly 1K of my own money every months hosting services free for you to use. You've been ungrateful, demanding, and quite frankly rude time and time again and yet I'm still here letting you do you on this service, using my money to say negative shit about me, and even saying feel free to continue...

Frankly your attitude has been abysmal and it gets worse every day.

@jaysonmassey

I agree 100% with your statements here.

Out of curiosity would you also say that calling Israel "Beligerent" and "Battle-minded" would also be equally bigoted? I myself side more with palestine than Israel in the grand scheme, but would find characterizing either group that way would be reductive at best.

@Raccoon

Huh? Who claimed that CIS women arent women... I've literally never hard that claim.

@louis @bonifartius

> No, because FPTP only applies to the top ticket in America (i.e. the Electoral College). Down-ballot, third parties are vastly more competitive.

That doesnt match with the reality. In the USA our congress is almost entierly two parties.In fact you get third parties becoming president (those 8 examples I mentioned) **more often** then you get a third party in congress. But since congress has more people you will always have one or two in there while that is true.

The claim is that FPTP voting is why congress is a 2 party system just as much logic attempting to explain the presidency. Yet it only actually works that way in the USA.

@bonifartius @freemo @louis

Yup, and there's no good way to handle "everyone is taking into account how the system works", because if there were, the resulting system would break the Arrow's impossibility theorem.

A colleague of mine btw did write up a computation of that kind for most recent parliamentary elections in Poland, but the point there was mostly to compare voting in different constituencies (you may vote in any constituency in those elections, as long as you actually arrange for that slightly ahead of time and appear in a voting location in that constituency).

@louis

I do not have a source for that.

But regardless of if their parlimentary not sure how that would change the 2-party system effect when voting for the members of parliment. If a FPTP truely created a 2-party system we would see their parliments filled with members of only 2 parties.

@bonifartius

@mike805 While I am not sure we would agree on what interest groups deserve support I do tend to agree that even the groups that DO deserve support tend to be in tantrum mode.. in fact right now 100% of everyone and everything with any attachment to politics of any kind is just in a perptual tantrum... Tantrums work right now for damn near everything and on both sides of the aisle... its getting tired.

@louis

There are about 40 countries that use FPTP voting in its pure form.. and about 25 more countries that use it in a mixed form with other methods.

Oddly those 40 countries despite using FPTP just like the USA do not tend to have 2-party systems... because its a myth. America is only different because it gives the illusion i described earlier which is only because people buy the myth at all. In these other 40 countries though because that myth isnt really one that is "sold" you dont get the 2-party system you get here.

@bonifartius

@youshouldknowthis@mastodon.social

I'm sure i can find someone who discussed the real wage decrease, let me look.

@QasimRashid

@youshouldknowthis@mastodon.social

Sure, source here is bureau of labor statistics, its dump from September 2023 (most recent once I've analyzed).

@QasimRashid

@louis

The 3% to majority shift has happened virtually overnight "smoothly" in most past elections. In fact, I am unaware of any blood shed... People just eventually say enough and once support passes the threshold it flips. In almost every case though its largely bloodless and organic as far as I know.

@bonifartius

@louis

The USA has switched which 2 parties are the majority parties 8 times in the history of the USA.. Its been a while, but the democrats and republicans just happen to be the most recent major parties, they werent always the dominate ones.

@bonifartius

@louis

Like I said, I vote for the best person on the ballot, I dont vote for parties. My vote would be the same if Chase was a democrat or an independent.

@louis

I wish to accomplish a few things.

1) To never feel responsible again for the murder of an innocent like I did for voting for Obama.

2) to show increased numbers of support for third-party candidates so people will feel they are a more viable option in the future.

#1 is the big one though, a vote is me giving power to someone or something, which makes me responsible for the consequences of such a decision.

@Stanman

Nothing remotely american about a two party system except the stupidity to believe it is real.

@louis

Except the two party system is still an illusion. When support for the three parties is 34%, 34%, 32% then the actual vote will result in 51%, 48% and 1%.. but the second the "real" support passes that threshold you will see an immediate and shart ~50% flip in votes. In other words, the system appears to be two party but it still ultimately will follow the underlying "real support", thus there is no two party system, not really.

This is why every time the parties have switched the new dominant party had ~1% voting support the previous year despite a sudden shift.. this happened 7 out of the 8 times a party has switched.

@bonifartius

@youshouldknowthis@mastodon.social

The real (adjusted) hourly wage under biden went down by 7.5% - 10%, by comparison under trump it increased something like 10% - 15%.

His spending astronomical and wreckless.. Trumps spending was also wreckless (stuff like the wall was a complete waste) but overall the overall spending was at least lower, not that i would endorce trumps approach either.

Every indicator under Biden for economic health is just, bad, some are at best neutral.

@QasimRashid

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