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@lmrocha @mike805 @freemo @pj what inconvenient bits? Shall not be infringed seems pretty straight forward. If you are referring to the militia portion we're back in a loop.

Where I think we may differ is that I see these rights as natural god given rights of man. Government doesn't give us our rights, and allowing them to take your rights away and calling any rights preservation oligarchy hurts my brain. If every supreme court justice tomorrow said oh we've change how we interpret the 2a that changes nothing as far as "rights" go. 2A is protection against infringement (weak as it may be) not granting you the right to bear arms.

Happy easter everyone... as you know zombie jesus is the final evolution of the jesus pokemon, and the most sacred of pokemon among christians... So have a wonderful easter everyone!

@Swagpuss McG You may not have noticed it yet because all you've ever seen so far of the Fediverse is Mastodon, but Mastodon doesn't give you an untouched "pure feed."

It leaves Mastodon toots untouched, yes.

But everything that comes from outside vanilla Mastodon is changed, if not to say mangled.

Posts from Pleroma, from Akkoma, from MissKey, from CalcKey, from FoundKey, from Socialhome, from GoToSocial, from Friendica, from Hubzilla, from (streams), even from Mastodon forks have any and all of their text formatting stripped away. You won't even be able to tell quotes because they aren't shown as such, because Mastodon removes the necessary formatting.

Also, pictures. Other projects can embed pictures within a post, and they can show more than four pictures. Mastodon rips the pictures out of the posts, converts the last four into file attachments, shows them after the post instead of within the post where they belong, and all but the last four pictures are discarded, thrown away, never to be seen by any Mastodon user.

If this isn't abstraction, I don't know what is.

That's why I've told you to try Akkoma and/or Friendica. It will open your eyes and show you what the Fediverse really looks like, and what can be done in the Fediverse, all once you're free from the restrictions and limitations of Mastodon. It'll be at least as much a revelation as when you learned that the Fediverse is, in fact, not only Mastodon.

If you're into astronomy, this is just so wild - a black hole ejected from a galaxy created a 200,000 light-year long trail (larger than our own galaxy) of new stars. hubblesite.org/contents/news-r

@freemo @pj @mike805 @lmrocha when I attended the course recommended for concealed carry (not required - constitutional carry) they pointed out in very clear terms the job of the police is not primarily to defend you. It is to execute the law which generally means arresting people suspected of a crime. That means the crime already happened by the time the cops show up.

@hasmis This is a perfect example of how uneducated you are on the topic... wow...

A HDD is a measure of the amount of energy it would take to keep a space warm... Lower HDD represents **hotter** weather..

Literally what you posted is proof of global warming, but because you completely misunderstood the graph you thought you were cherry picking something that debunked global warming... funny that.

It is so bizarre to see someone actively cherry pick to support an absurd scientific conclusion and even when they realize they were reading the chart upside down and proves they were wrong you will, I am certain, continue to try to justify your nonsense.

@pj

It was not narrow, at least not in the constitution. the founding fathers made rather clear, at least many of them, that they wanted many to have equal rights but sadly the states in many cases, and people, just werent ready for it. So it had to be explicitly added as an amendment.

The quotes from the founding fathers during and after the writing of the constitution was quite clear that their definition of People was in fact extraordinarily broad for the time period and very much they wanted to include blacks in that definition (and likely other minorities).

Some quotes:

“There is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do, to see a plan adopted for the abolition of it [slavery].” – George Washington, 1786

"Article the Sixth. There shall be neither Slavery nor involuntary Servitude in the said territory" -- James Madison, at the constitutional convention address prohibition against slavery as an article.

“We have seen the mere distinction of color made in the most enlightened period of time, a ground of the most oppressive dominion ever exercised by man over man.” – James Madison (also at the constitutional convention)

“Every master of slaves is born a petty tyrant. They bring the judgment of Heaven on a country." -- George Mason

“The omitting the Word [slave] will be regarded as an Endeavor to conceal a principle of which we are ashamed.” – John Dickinson, draft of notes for a speech at the Constitutional Convention

“Every measure of prudence, therefore, ought to be assumed for the eventual total extirpation of slavery from the United States…I have, through my whole life, held the practice of slavery in…abhorrence.” – John Adams, 1819

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@freemo @icedquinn @mike805 @lmrocha if we're going to ban things that can be used for [self] harm we'll have nothing left.
@freemo @lmrocha @mike805 i ran the numbers once on public data. the pearson R correlation for murders per 100k firearms was weak to none.

the united states is just a horrifyingly volatile country in general. if you look at death statistics completely unrelated to weaponry--more of our firemen die than other countries of equivalent capability.

@lmrocha @freemo you are arguing this from a statistics point of view. You may well have a point. If you want to debate with gun rights supporters, please understand: many of us believe in natural rights which existed before civilization and which civilization cannot legitimately take away. Personal defense is one of those.

People with that POV will not be swayed by numbers. Our response is, why was this not a problem 100 years ago? Personally, I suspect psychiatric drugs play a big role today.

Has anyone taken a moment to remind you of the simple fact of just how amazing you are? How nice it is to have you around?

It's true and I fear you're not told often enough.

@freemo right on. And before someone posts the "well regulated militia" argument, the militia at that time was the able-bodied male population. The 2a is definitely about the general public being armed and trained to repel either invasion or tyranny.

If the Federal government wanted to take the 2a seriously, they should be expanding the Civilian Marksmanship Program and offering free rifle lessons in high school.

Seems pretty clear to me, want to place limits on it, get support for a new amendment.

Lol someone turned twitter logo into the Doge logo... I am amused.

So my airbnb has a "No durian in the apartment" rule... Shoukd be easy to guess what country im in ;)

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