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Actually we use pen and pencil daily. Now we only use brushes when doing calligraphy or we need write something big.

The left side is how you should write and print. And you should write like that if you want others to easily read what you write. And in school it's required to be written in the correct order of storkes, which I think some are reasonable, some are not.

This passage is write for japanese but most of the idea works for Chinese too.
https://www.tofugu.com/japanese/kanji-stroke-order/

And now we're using simplified Chinese, which means much less strokes. In Taiwan and HongKong they still use traditional Chinese, which looks nicer, but with a lof ot strokes.

Some traditional Chinese looks like (copied from wikipedia):
漢字簡化運動可追溯至新文化運動中關於文字及語文教言和國家發展的討論。

The same text but in simplified Chinese:
汉字简化运动可追溯至新文化运动中关于文字及语文教言和国家发展的讨论。

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Just a simple demo to show how I normally write. The standard one is shown on the left side, they are 7, 5 and 8 strokes. And the left side is how I write those, the first one is 2 strokes because there is a separate dot there. The rest are 1 stroke.

A fun fact: In school teacher will not allow you to write like this.I was being criticized a lot when I was in school.

And because school don't allow and of course won't teach you how to write like this, almost everyone will develop their own way to write. So when talking about handwriting, unless it's intentionally write for others, it's hard to read other people's handwriting.

And I think I won't say it's cursive. The real cursive is much beautiful than this :)

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I think you mean PinYin. For example you can represent a word like 我们 (means `we`) as wo3men2, but 我门 (means `my door`) is also pronounced as wo3men2. That will be tricky if you write something like wo3men2huai4le, it can be either 我们坏了 (means we are badass), or 我门坏了 (meaning my door is broken). And that's why early pinyin input method is a nightmare to use, because it often suggest unrelated candidate. Now with smarter software, the input method is more likely to suggest the later option instead of saying you're badass.

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@freemo Not really, for madarin and most dialect we use the character as is. We do use acronym for curse words. But Cantonese might be different, they use some latin letter to represent pronunciation (I guess?), but I don't know Cantonese so I might be wrong.

@freemo And for professional shorthand usage, PinYin is not the only option, there are special keyboards which designed to use custom key combinations to input character and/or word. But most of the time a qwert keyboard is working just fine. I think that special keyboard is not that need as we now have more advanced method to infer which word might fit your need based on your input context. I still remember when I was young, the default Chinese input method from WindowsXP is a nightmare to use. So we have to install dedicated software to replace it. Nowadays I'm super fine with the default input method from Windows10. And for linux, I think Rime is not that bad.

@freemo If I'm not misunderstanding, there is some sort of short hand in Chinese, but mostly for professional usage, like clerk, but nowadays we almost exclusively use computer and use PinYin to type Chinese charactors, I can achive about 90 to 100 wpm (or cpm, c for character).

Here is a picture I found on the internet, it shows the markers for some character.

I think the doctor still use that kind of shorthands? I can never read those.

@freemo it’s a crazy old man vs a demented old man. Either will quit in 4 years.
Back in Russia we have a crazy demented usurper who is going to rule until he dies unless something happens. Now that’s a problem.

Just had an idea for a thought experiment. I'd like to hear anyone's answers, but I'm especially interested in how @freemo answers:

Let's say the presidential election was framed as a stock market. The market itself (equivalent to NYSE or NASDAQ) is America. The stocks are the presidential candidates.

In this experiment, each American has a net worth of $1000 and they have to spend it "voting" for presidential stocks during the election year. They can vote early in the year, or wait and see how others invest and vote later. They can split the $1000 between as many candidates as they want, or put it all on one.

After the election happens, they receive 10% of what they invested in the winning candidate each month (so if they put it all on the winner, they're made whole in 10 months). After the election, the winner's stock becomes the premier stock of the entire market and drives the market valuation based on the President's performance, paying dividends to every American when it does well.

In this scenario, you have two (potentially) competing motivations: enriching yourself and enriching the market (America).

So, the two questions that arise are:
1) Do you invest early, based on just your morals/politics, or do you wait and see how others invest first?
2) How do you divide up your $1,000?

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