FreeSchool=Co-Op+Friendship🔁 @freeschool@qoto.org

#AI #QUOTE "You're seeing the results of idiots drunk on the scam running the show."

- Nudeln Al Dente @NudelnAlDente
https://mstdn.social/@NudelnAlDente/112445211315851951

#AI #QUOTE "It's convenient and produces money if this gets ignored. 🤷"

- Karl Voit :orgmode: @publicvoit
https://graz.social/@publicvoit/112444200128899414

#AI #QUOTE "I guess rolling out the product for the $$$ and hype was more important than having a secure product!"

- Semi-author-ized L.J. @ljwrites
https://writeout.ink/@ljwrites/112442020960887415

#AI #Quote "... zero trust is meaningless now because everyone claims THEIR sso/kpi/whatever is "zero trust". They all have different definitions of it"

OliverUv @OliverUv
https://mastodon.social/@OliverUv/112644765654509965

#AI #Quote "... grifters promising things which could not then and still cannot now be delivered so poisoned the space that the whole market collapsed and we -- and a lot of other small companies producing modest but genuinely interesting tools -- were swept away."

- Simon Brooke
@simon_brooke https://mastodon.scot/@simon_brooke/112644719677561589

#AI #Quote "EVERYTHING under the sun nowadays is called an AI."

" You know, things that 5–10 years would just go by “algorithm”. Or “heuristic”. Today for marketing purposes the same f%cking two if statements are already “AI”. "

- Andreas K @yacc143

https://mastodon.social/@yacc143/112643103114186261

#AI #Quote "...generative models actually get worse over time as they consume more and more of their own excrement. The ensuing AI centipede of excremental progress will eventually collapse into a shit pile."

- Tony Vladusich
@TonyVladusich
https://mathstodon.xyz/@TonyVladusich/112642796175560126

#AI #quote "It's a bit like a virus that mutates... sucks in billions and billions of investor money and just gives it to somebody else without creating anything of worth."

StreetDogg @StreetDogg
https://norden.social/@StreetDogg/112643582848710442

#AI #quote "The grift-hopping is what gets me."

"Hardly anyone notices these quantum blockchain AI grifts collapse, because the new grift is already there to distract people.

It's a bit like a virus that mutates, and occasionally it mutates to something that grows big, sucks in billions and billions of investor money and just gives

it to somebody else without creating anything of worth.

What a weird system. Too bad the last two iterations are literally burning the planet in the process."

StreetDogg @StreetDogg
https://norden.social/@StreetDogg/112643582848710442

#AI #quote "The grift around LLMs is infuriating. With a few exceptions, I immediately distrust anyone who talks about “AI”

- Bruno Nicoletti quote @bjn
https://mstdn.social/@bjn/112642443008578673

#AI quote “...you outsource your decisionmaking to the thing..."

- Ludic 🧛 #quote
@ludicity
+ https://ludic.mataroa.blog/blog/i-will-fucking-piledrive-you-if-you-mention-ai-again/

#AI "...what I literally hate is that EVERYTHING under the sun nowadays is called an AI. You know, things that 5–10 years would just go by “algorithm”. Or “heuristic”.

Today for marketing purposes the same f%cking two if statements are already “AI”."

- Andreas #quote
@yacc143
https://mastodon.social/@yacc143/112643103114186261

#AI "generative models actually get worse over time as they consume more and more of their own excrement. The ensuing AI centipede of excremental progress will eventually collapse into a shit pile."

- Tony Vladusich #quote

@TonyVladusich
https://mathstodon.xyz/@TonyVladusich/112642796175560126

#Privacy for your #Fediverse account?

➡️ Add these privacy notes (copy and paste selected text to your bio) ⬇️

"No consent is given to scrape or store any of my data, by Commercial company or individual, for any commercial purpose or otherwise."

#NoIndex #NoSearch #NoBot #NoBridge #CveCrowdDeny
(cvecrowd.com scraper)

NO #AI #DataScraping
NO #BigTech
NO #Search #SearchEngines

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It's something of a defence and prevention.

ADMINS CONSIDER THIS:
➡️ Add a footer section to say on your instance template 9under compose box):

"No consent given to scrape any data from this server for any commercial purpose"

(Hope I'm not projecting this)

Consider it as a work in progress my dear VERSION 2
(will increment this as I type today) - food for thought...

Hard to see what you see but I guess you use #Fediverse not much more than a few messages - and probably think "why do I need to more?" and "Not my fault if this place fall apart / dies / gets eaten for the same reasons as seen before (take overs / mergers / invaders etc) -

"HEY it should all run without my care / attention / participation to it all! "

TLDR: Below is reasoning of which general group on Fediverse you might fall into (and briefly your mindset / focus which is why you might appear to care whether it's true or not) and also what's going wrong added to under the categories

All as I see / experienced / experiencing in response to my ideas given in general, responses to my ideas or observations from interactions with others (or lack of) without my involvement. Limited but at least closer to first / second hard without any big stake in it other than doing something about XYZ invasions / potentials / building trust in ourselves...

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TLDR (bit longer - or skip to next section)
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Basically groups of people who moved over from Twitter cold-turkey from rug-pull type stuff or more intentionally and just Fediverse here now in a similar same way (not really building anything and being mostly user /consumer only)...

and those who *might* realise or not that as time goes on their time here is running out on Fediverse too as and bigger players are simply moving next door / shifting operations (literally Twitter, FB, Meta, Google / Alphabet Group going to dragnet and just move here / use us even more)

And continue to index the fuck out of us with near no-attempt by admins or users to protect us / themselves / their users from data-scraping / #AI stuff (some we can't see but you know their patterns of profit are undoubted and their existence is their own definition of their own existence ⬅️ yes that's clever )... STOP READING if you don't agree with this.

STOP READING if you think predators or war makers changed their stripes and now their intentions are much better and it's not that bad, they wouldn't be so cut-throat in the more-civilised ways of playing off people against themselves to gobble us like a Pacman dots all the while... ●☻●☻●☻●☻ ◌ ◌ ◌ ◌ ◌

Commercialism's comforts has basically blinded us / made us think it's all ok and doable using their ways.

Anyway here is more on this:

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Groups and basic reasoning why
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█"Boys and Toys" (Computers or similar "This is all going to help" or "this is my fun leave me alone")
█Gamers, FPS shooters - like war playing is ok for so long or ever justified emptying so much time on (we've all been their, now it's time to get out)
█Hobbiest / Modders / Fiddlers (PC. #Retro. #Retrocomputing, #PCB, #Lights etc)... some genuine hacks we might use "one day" but still their communication is probably limited "like why should I look into anything else other my family and hobbies?"
█#Computing News ("oh wow this could really save the world again" stuff or "oh my god look what they are doing now... let me re-tweet it.... I mean "boost")
█(etc etc... overall humans who are interacting with non-humans as main material - doing the consumption of time and interaction while not seeing the human sides are lacking as a result - directly communication and therefore #trust #friendship #solidarity #new systems etc - Advanced users can also be just users with users under them as an instance.

AND ALL here not caring to interact much, few posts back and forth MAX. Not many marathon runners - if you feel bad about this comment you might have been 1 of ?0 I contact during each month directly offering / asking anything and everything to catch a bit of interest, even to dispel any doubts openly.

Verdict: "Humans are inefficient and imperfect therefore ignore them" / "why try it's futile" types of people)

█Bourgeois (Too rich or Rich enough upper-middle class - don't want to rock any boats and happy where they are.
Why spend time on those below me or those non-family people?
Me talk to non-blood related people or think of "1 love" humanity - naaaa)

ANSWER: Like Martial Arts halls you can improve the lower belts by training with them and thos that stick around can be like family who then come up and fight with you / teach next calls or generation... it's not business deal always, but if you treat life like that then it will be just buying / selling people... which we know doesn't work well / ignores the mind or general issues of suffering by people...

Nobody wants to do these things actively apart from a few posts.

█Alternative sexuality- #Trans #Anime #Fans # #Women #Transgender #rights #Hate #Bigotry #Violence #Genocide #Discrimination #Homophobia #Transphobia #LGBTQ #LGBTQIA ... etc
People who escaped from masses of others not quite accepting or upto speed...
More active, vocal and trying that others... probably because their life depends on it and sexuality in danger by those confused by new and strange purely from not having experience / learning from mainstream.

#Anti #Capitalism #AnarchoCapitalism #Fascism
+
#Privacy #Surveillance etc 🚨
all kind of the same and self explanatory
...just some just news echoes or some trying to do it all on their own mostly (which does make sense remember you need lower echelon as cringe as we might be).

#shitposters #poast #kiwifarms
A strong potential as already superior in activity and communication (yes even in making sense from things despite profile or server suggesting otherwise). Clever not just in humour or in killing time. A ton of stuff simply to view and ignore without big feelings.

#War spectators - action watching

#Politics #uspol Trump #Democracy #canadasrfaright #Equality #Law #Gov #EU etc no need say more - you know why you watch this stuff rather than work on something with us (in the other groups)

#more to come today... will revise or add new post v soon... follow with notification if important to you (switch off if it's ever bullshit)

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EXPLAINED STUFF / DISCLAIMER
(or skip to next section...)
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I included the word "you" here to make it "a bit more personal" so you question yourself to which category listed you fall in - and ask yourself if I'm approximately right (?).

It's totally ok to say this to yourself but consider coming out of your zone of comfort.

Made from first hand experience (attempts) and previous measured bias = a list of groups (on Fediverse but general groups too) who are perhaps not doing enough BUT also doing the opposite to their own ethos sometimes (much like Facebook while anti-Facebook and posting there a lot).

I estimate these groups as main reasons why for overall relationships / groups / networks are not to my level of expectation (while still leaving room for other group and reasons)

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EXAMPLES OF SLACKNESS / NO FIGHTBACK OF EVEN EASY STUFF
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Like "no consent" or simple footer for "no permission granted" or "information is not for scraping or used commercially" or CC-BY-SA-NC).

This includes Eugene / Gargon + my admin @freemo who I've asked a good while back either about Google links here feeding the commercial farms (Gargron) or adding a footer to our particular server (freemo).

How bad do people want to keep Fediverse and is there enough people to hold it? Right now, as conversation I'm not sure.
As admins and few conscious yes, but without help of masses and "upgrading" your users then your users are the weak point and we'll just move to the next thing or stick to being "bridged" ( #BlueSkyBridge #BlueSky #Threads )

I reserve right to correct myself or see if anyone has a good comeback to justify changing this - all is from positive want for better / more reasoning... but my account shows what I've tried a lot... I don't many other to call their account and try for these 'upgrade the weak-points' type of things called users...
users being just are not enough and we can encourage more!

(Hope I'm not projecting this title and consider as a work in progress)

Hard to see what you see but I guess you use #Fediverse not much more than a few messages - and probably think "why do I need to more?" and "Not my fault if this place dies to the same reasons as before - it should all run without my care / attention / participation to it all!"

TLDR: Below is reasoning of general groups on Fediverse (and briefly their mindset / focus) and also what's going wrong added to these categories as I see / experienced / experiencing it in response to ideas in general, my ideas or observations of interactions with others (or lack of).

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TLDR (bit longer - or skip to next section)
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Basically groups of people who moved over from Twitter (mostly) and just use it in the same way... who *might* realise or not in time that their time is running out on Fediverse too as and bigger players are simply moving next door (literally Twitter, FB, Meta, Google / Alphabet Group going to dragnet and just move here)
Or continue to index the fuck out of us with no attempt by admins or users to protect us / themselves / their users from data-scraping / #AI stuff (soem I can't see but you know their patterns of profit are undoubted as their definition of their own existence)... STOP READING if you don't agree with this.

If you think predators or war makers changed from their pure-profit intentions and playing off people against themselves to gobble us like a Pacman dot... ●☻●☻●☻●☻ ◌ ◌ ◌ ◌ ◌ then stop reading and go back to commercialism comforts.

Anyway here is more on this:

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Groups and basic reasoning why
=====================

█Boys and Toys
█Gamers, FPS shooter like war is ok or worth emptying so much time on
█Hobbiest / Modders / Fiddlers (PC. #Retro. #Retrocomputing, #PCB, #Lights etc)
█#Computing News ("oh wow this could really save the world again" stuff)
█(etc etc... overall humans dealing with non-humans as main material / time consumption / interaction spent

AND ALL here not caring to interact much, few posts back and forth MAX.

Verdict: "Humans are inefficient and imperfect therefore ignore / why try" types of people)

█Bourgeois (Too rich or Rich enough upper-middle class not to rock any boats and why spend time on those below you or those non-family people / non-blood related)

ANSWER: Like Martial Arts halls you improve the lower belts treating them like family who then come up and fight with you / teach next calls or generation...

Nobody wants to do that actively apart from a few posts.

█Alternative sexuality- #Trans #Anime #Fans... etc
People who escaped from masses of others not quite accepting or upto speed...
More active, vocal and trying that others... probably because their life depends on it and sexuality in danger by those confused by new and strange purely from not having experience / learning from mainsteam.

#War spectators - action watching

#Politics #uspol Trump etc no need say more - you know why you watch this stuff rather than work on something with us (in the other groups)

#more to come today... will revise this post v soon...

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EXPLAINED STUFF / DISCLAIMER
(or skip to next section...)
=================

I included the word "you" here to make it "a bit more personal" so you question yourself to which category listed you fall in - and ask yourself if I'm approximately right (?).

It's totally ok to say this to yourself but consider coming out of your zone of comfort.

Made from first hand experience (attempts) and previous measured bias = a list of groups (on Fediverse but general groups too) who are perhaps not doing enough BUT also doing the opposite to their own ethos sometimes (much like Facebook while anti-Facebook and posting there a lot).

I estimate these groups as main reasons why for overall relationships / groups / networks are not to my level of expectation (while still leaving room for other group and reasons)

==================
EXAMPLES OF SLACKNESS / NO FIGHTBACK OF EVEN EASY STUFF
==================

Like "no consent" or simple footer for "no permission granted" or "information is not for scraping or used commercially" or CC-BY-SA-NC).

This includes Eugene / Gargon + my admin @freemo who I've asked a good while back either about Google links here feeding the commercial farms (Gargron) or adding a footer to our particular server (freemo).

How bad do people want to keep Fediverse and is there enough people to hold it? Right now, as conversation I'm not sure.
As admins and few conscious yes, but without help of masses and "upgrading" your users then your users are the weak point and we'll just move to the next thing or stick to being "bridged" ( #BlueSkyBridge #BlueSky #Threads )

I reserve right to correct myself or see if anyone has a good comeback to justify changing this - all is from positive want for better / more reasoning... but my account shows what I've tried a lot... I don't many other to call their account and try for these 'upgrade the weak-points' type of things called users...
users being just are not enough and we can encourage more!

#AI mechanises therefore cut off people / become obsolete / irrelevant.

Cuts people out of the picture more often when using #Computing....

#Business #Mindset #Grow #Ethics #Healthy #Mentality not #AI

People AND their mindset as our basic "business".

People should be "busy" in helping grow healthier mentality and improve people's ethical base...

#Business #Mindset #Grow #Ethics #Healthy #Mentality not #AI

This might be why I'm not so happy with the world and/or see more potential in nice people or my admin or peers.

People might want to work with their computers and AI more than people (so it would be ok if it was both computer-work AND people-work but if it's just mostly computers (even if it's really cool and lights our life up for a bit) then in the end it's spinning more money (and money's debt) instead of actually advancing the average human (which I think talking to each other in circles about our passions and 'therapy' somewhat too) does a hell of a lot more then AI.

AI of no use to humans from what we have already (each other and yes some computing). Everything else more toys and profit machines / server farms.

And we wouldn't even relax even if what you do does help people have less work... the bar would only be raised and you'd have to work harder WITH AI !

So overall the people work is skipped and we miss the whole point of "PROBLEMS" (WHICH IS HUMANS EITHER AS BASTARDS OR IDIOTS/HAVING OTHER FOCUSES).

People miss the whole point IF they think AI can save people when we need to ask humans to do it (whatever it is)... and also to save themselves but not using #AI all in / if at all.

P.S
I mean the new complex AI, the old AI or a paint program assistant / picture filter is much less of a footprint and risk...

#AI work vs #People #Work by #Admins

We have to improve people first or mostly in our work, else we get massive imbalances.

#AI #Example #Enshittification #RugPull etc

Source post by @KathyReid
specifically https://aus.social/@KathyReid/112413898118066645

People! Please snap out of tech a bit and see the lies and back-stabbing profit!

Imagine it's like Crypto but they are still mining you in other ways and then exiting leaving you high and dry...

"The data I helped create is going to be bundled in an #LLM and sold back to me."